JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet

[Worldport]

Weaasles -8 LOL how low will she go?

 

[AANOTOK]

AANOTOK  we at LUS got $3006 did you get the same rumor is LAA got more

Mine was $3162 gross

 

[AANOTOK]

What you were reading probably had to do with people being part time and then going to full time  and  getting an adjustment date. It is really a sore spot here maybe Tim could explain it. I don't have an adjusted date so I'm really not to sure how it works

Here if a part time employee decides to go full time, they use there DOH classification (Fleet) for seniority. In other words, I have had part timers decide they wanted to go full time and bid ahead of me because they hired in to fleet before I did. I have no problem with that. As a matter of fact, I can go down to part time and then decide I want to be full time again and lose nothing (seniority wise).

 

[AANOTOK]

Just an uneducated guess on my part, but I multiplied the .30 cents we lost from longevity x 520 hrs and it comes out to $156. That's exactly how much more mine is than yours. Something tells me if that's the case, it may be an oversight. We all should have received a $5.78 x 520 hrs = $3005.60 raise (I thought)

 

[Worldport]

Mine was $3162 gross

Thanks, tperhaps CB or P Rez or Tim could explain why LAA got bigger checks. Here at LUS we get paid every two weeks if that has anything to do with it 

 

[AANOTOK]

Thanks, tperhaps CB or P Rez or Tim could explain why LAA got bigger checks. Here at LUS we get paid every two weeks if that has anything to do with it 

Another sharp one around here is Filter, he may know.

 

[Worldport]

Just an uneducated guess on my part, but I multiplied the .30 cents we lost from longevity x 520 hrs and it comes out to $156. That's exactly how much more mine is than yours.

But your top out would still be $24,39 and raise to $30.17 not $30.47 

 

[AANOTOK]

But your top out would still be $24,39 and raise to $30.17 not $30.47 

Yes, again, it could be a coincidence that the math I did added up, or it could be an oversight. I'm not saying either.
We are making $30.17, just like you guys. We were making $24.09 and then .30 for longevity. On this wage adjustment, they
did away with our .30 longevity and added it to our base pay to bring us equal to you guys at $24.39. Then we all received a 5.78 cent raise.
All I'm saying is the .30 might have been mixed in unintentionally. I really don't know. The math does add up for the mistake.

 

[Worldport]

Yes, again, it could be a coincidence that the math I did added up, or it could be an oversight. I'm not saying either.
We are making $30.17, just like you guys. We were making $24.09 and then .30 for longevity. On this wage adjustment, they
did away with our .30 longevity and added it to our base pay to bring us equal to you guys at $24.39. Then we all received a 5.78 cent raise.
All I'm saying is the .30 might have been mixed in unintentionally. I really don't know. The math does add up for the mistake.

Thanks AANOTOK someone will know.It's  always something ain't it?

 

[charlie Brown]

Yes, again, it could be a coincidence that the math I did added up, or it could be an oversight. I'm not saying either.
We are making $30.17, just like you guys. We were making $24.09 and then .30 for longevity. On this wage adjustment, they
did away with our .30 longevity and added it to our base pay to bring us equal to you guys at $24.39. Then we all received a 5.78 cent raise.
All I'm saying is the .30 might have been mixed in unintentionally. I really don't know. The math does add up for the mistake.

AANOTOK
You are correct with your assumption. It is because of the longevity I was told.

 

[Worldport]

AANOTOK
You are correct with your assumption. It is because of the longevity I was told.

So that means they shouldn't be getting longevity pay for the next several weeks on their regular checks
 
 
 
Edit. Actually that's it no more longevity pay, it no longer exists for them

 

[AANOTOK]

AANOTOK
You are correct with your assumption. It is because of the longevity I was told.

Cool, I'm for hire...  

 

[Ramp Rogue]

 
 
DOH for Vacation...Classification for in work group bid.

 
The first day that you work on the ramp, should be your DOH SENIORITY. It doesn't matter where you came from, passenger service, mechanics, management, tower, or anywhere else. That day, date should be your seniority date.
 
Rogue…..

 

[Ramp Rogue]

Rogue,

Seniority is and has always been a hot topic. As a Union rep I have always stated that my opinion is the person that has been there the longest is the most senior. I was on the NC for the first contract at America West and we had a seniority issue that I was unsuccessful in correcting because the company didn't want to change and the committee voted to move on. Part of the problem when it comes to seniority issues is that no one person agrees to how it should be applied for various scenarios. When AW merged with US, I learned about the seniority issues at US. AA also has their issues with seniority from the TWA merger, the outsourcing of certain work, etc.

To sum up seniority, ratification after ratification of contracts on the AW, US and AA properties had language that stated past seniority practices will remain in place. You can't unscramble the egg. To put another way, we collectively have agreed to the current way of how seniority is and was applied to all of us over the years.

P. Rez

 
There is no way that seniority currently is. Seniority as it stands right now, is that scrambled egg that you referred too. It's time for that egg to be unscrambled. It's easy to do. The first day that someone worked on the ramp, give them that date as their seniority date and be done with it. The iam needs to be fair to EVERYONE, and not just the chosen few. 
 
Rogue…..

 

[Worldport]

 
The first day that you work on the ramp, should be your DOH SENIORITY. It doesn't matter where you came from, passenger service, mechanics, management, tower, or anywhere else. That day, date should be your seniority date.
 
Rogue…..

Tower is part of fleet  service same as catering and airfreight