JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet

[Worldport]

Actually not planning on getting a new car until at least a year after we get the raises now. She's in spectacular shape.

The way things are going  you might be able to get one of those "Jetsons" flying cars. You have to be in spectacular shape pushing that car as much as you do

 

[Worldport]

Those b@$tards just slipped us for 4 hours. And claiming backed up flights, BS, not a cloud or rain in the sky!

I wonder if they will be so quick when you're making $46 per hour. Bob put that money into your hooker fund

 

[WeAAsles]

Ours uses 33 hours per month. Not 11. I think UA's is 11 hours a month. The difference is that the LUS only credits each hour as $11.25 or something around $11. Using up 33 hours a month, and that doesn't satisfy the whole contribution, is better than what you guys have but it burns up quick. Never mind that a retiree gets no dental. We have to work on these things and I'm hopeful that this can be resolved in a fairer way. At UA, many more would have exercised the buyout etc, but the company attached the buyout to a group and not individuals. So, the ramp never got the opportunity for a greater buyout ( I think it was $100,000) because they didn't cross the bar of having x amount of employees sign up for it. I think it would have further benefitted the company and the individual if they would have done it by individual.

33 hours at $30.00 per hour will be $1000.00 per month. And that still doesn't satisfy the whole contribution?????? No obviously that's absolutely horrible and if anything it's actually theft of your sick bank. In that case there's no value for that bank when you retire and you might be better off going on the exchange instead and having your hours cashed out? The company aren't fools either. They know that people burn through their sick bank till zero and then pull the retirement lever. That way they're still getting full pay and the subsidized medical.

As far as Dental the wise thing to do would be to start going yearly 5 years before you retire and have your Dentist max out those benefits till you're out the door so those old teeth can last you awhile.

 

[WeAAsles]

I also remember the new management saying that they were going to fight exorbitant insurance claims made against them by Doctors and Hospitals. That was something they put out around a year ago or so.

Being self insured I'm sure arguing against those claims should dramatically lower their expenses. So in the future as that comes into play they should be able to charge their employees much less than they do currently?

I've always felt we're being scammed by the company when it comes to Healthcare coverage.


http://www.siia.org/i4a/pages/Index.cfm?pageID=4546


http://kff.org/other/state-indicator/family-coverage/


https://www.zanebenefits.com/blog/bid/97380/FAQ-How-Much-Does-Individual-Health-Insurance-Cost

 

[bob@las-AA]

Actually not planning on getting a new car until at least a year after we get the raises now. She's in spectacular shape.

I wonder if they will be so quick when you're making $46 per hour. Bob put that money into your hooker fund

Looking for the premium service when the big money get here.

 

[WeAAsles]

Looking for the premium service when the big money get here.

Still cheaper than getting that wife and kids. Ouch.

http://kff.org/report-section/ehbs-2014-summary-of-findings/

 

[Tim Nelson]

33 hours at $30.00 per hour will be $1000.00 per month. And that still doesn't satisfy the whole contribution?????? No obviously that's absolutely horrible and if anything it's actually theft of your sick bank. In that case there's no value for that bank when you retire and you might be better off going on the exchange instead and having your hours cashed out? The company aren't fools either. They know that people burn through their sick bank till zero and then pull the retirement lever. That way they're still getting full pay and the subsidized medical.

As far as Dental the wise thing to do would be to start going yearly 5 years before you retire and have your Dentist max out those benefits till you're out the door so those old teeth can last you awhile.

We can retire and cash out our sick bank at $8 an hour I think. Better than nothing.

 

[WeAAsles]

We can retire and cash out our sick bank at $8 an hour I think. Better than nothing.

The CWA was not able to secure any agreement for subsidized pre 65 medical. Instead they will be (Lmao) kind enough to offer medical pre 65 at the FULL rate plus administrative costs. Isn't that just peachy of them.

They cash out their sick bank at the rate of $8.65 per hour.

Well if we wind up not getting any type of subsidized medical then I'm not being compensated as well as my industry peers. Are you reading Jerry Glass?

Page 151 to 153 explains your benefits Tim. But the rates shown go all the way back to 2005 so I'm sure they've gone up a lot since then? You're sick bank cash out is $9.20 per hour.

http://dl141.com/us/docs/IAM-FS2014-10-7-14-4-3.pdf

 

[Kev3188]

Ours uses 33 hours per month. Not 11. I think UA's is 11 hours a month. The difference is that the LUS only credits each hour as $11.25 or something around $11. Using up 33 hours a month, and that doesn't satisfy the whole contribution, is better than what you guys have but it burns up quick. Never mind that a retiree gets no dental. We have to work on these things and I'm hopeful that this can be resolved in a fairer way. At UA, many more would have exercised the buyout etc, but the company attached the buyout to a group and not individuals. So, the ramp never got the opportunity for a greater buyout ( I think it was $100,000) because they didn't cross the bar of having x amount of employees sign up for it. I think it would have further benefitted the company and the individual if they would have done it by individual.

So the company is only crediting $11ish/hr., but is charging retirees what looks like a full COBRA rate?

Ouch.

 

[WeAAsles]

So the company is only crediting $11ish/hr., but is charging retirees what looks like a full COBRA rate?
Ouch.

The sad part is people only think about what the company offers for medical in retirement instead of looking for a plan through the ACA. We live and breath our jobs for so long that we forget that the World doesn't only revolve around what they might or might not offer us.

I've said it before. Depending on what you feel you're going to need and draw out of your retirement accounts you may (Not withstanding the deductibles for surgeries) get a great subsidy on Obamacare.

But of course attach the name Obama onto the Affordable Care Act and Conservatives think the Boogeyman is hiding under the bed. Total shame.

 

[robbedagain]

that type plan only works if your within 65 range and want to retire   but if the company were to offer a true buyout  then they would have to do much better  no wait  hell of a lot better   i really dont see that happening    i know few of my coworkers said theyd take the buy out only if medical would be there

 

[WeAAsles]

that type plan only works if your within 65 range and want to retire   but if the company were to offer a true buyout  then they would have to do much better  no wait  hell of a lot better   i really dont see that happening    i know few of my coworkers said theyd take the buy out only if medical would be there

The only problem people would have to consider if they took the buyout is that if they needed to go on the exchange they would get no subsidy for the rest of that year since the buyout would be added to your earned income and would disqualify you. At least for the rest of that year if you needed to opt in.

I think we do worry ourselves maybe a little too much about making sure we're medically covered. Baring that sudden lighting strike if you're healthy what do we think might happen to us if we weren't covered for a few months until the next ACA enrollment?

But I would like a better subsidized retiree medical option then the Bridges I'm currently seeing. None of them are that great.

Welcome to the United States of America. Make sure you don't get sick in this Country.

 

[Tim Nelson]

I know one thing, retirees cant get on flights now. So that could mean that fewer would take a buyout.

 

[Kev3188]

I think we do worry ourselves maybe a little too much about making sure we're medically covered. Baring that sudden lighting strike if you're healthy what do we think might happen to us if we weren't covered for a few months until the next ACA enrollment?

Way to completely ignore the unpredictability of life...

 

[WeAAsles]

Way to completely ignore the unpredictability of life...

Ok tell me what you "can't" insure for that unpredictability of life these days? From A to Z everything you have in life now they want to sell you some type of insurance for it.

I bought a couch (You should buy the insurance for that) I bought a stove (You should buy the insurance for that)

Next thing you know you buy a House and they'll want to sell you Meteor insurance.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Types_of_insurance