JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet

[robbedagain]

Prez  sounds like if it goes as what it appears  then possibly Oct or even Nov might have a JCBA TA to look over and or vote on

 

[lax]

I think that might be AA life

I think that's MIA life. The only hub I know of where there's fsc's with less than 2 yrs that have never worked the line. Where rookies can tell senior guys and cc's what they're not gonna do yet still maintain employment. Yep MIA life lol!!!

 

[WeAAsles]

I think that's MIA life. The only hub I know of where there's fsc's with less than 2 yrs that have never worked the line. Where rookies can tell senior guys and cc's what they're not gonna do yet still maintain employment. Yep MIA life lol!!!

Unfortunately true. And a big reason why people don't want to take CC here. A lot of CC don't feel they get any support from anyone if they get stuck with a slug. It's also somewhat they're fault though because they're not very tough on them during probation and the friends the newbie has or makes when on probation basically tell them they can get away with murder.

If you're going to ever consider taking CC here you better grow a very thick skin fast.

 

[Talos]

Uh-oh?
 
"With most major integration activities now complete, American should be able to cut costs by reducing its head count, but this hasn't happened so far. Meanwhile, American's chief rival Delta Air Lines generates the same revenue -- with higher reliability -- despite having about 15% fewer mainline employees. Particularly given its penchant for "upgauging" to larger jets within its fleet, American Airlines should be able to operate more capacity with less labor. Management needs to demonstrate a clear plan for doing so as soon as possible." --Motley Fool

Shallow article that compares AA to DAL without mentioning that DAL had their merger years before AA. Mergers are not cheap to put together if you want to do it right for long term gains. Very short sighted by the author.

 

[WeAAsles]

Shallow article that compares AA to DAL without mentioning that DAL had their merger years before AA. Mergers are not cheap to put together if you want to do it right for long term gains. Very short sighted by the author.

You also have to look at the credentials and holdings of the Blogger. He's currently long AAL but also frequently writes pieces that contradict what he's said at other times. It looks to me like his primary reason for writing what he does is to try and manipulate the stock for his own benefit.

Not exactly a credible source to follow for any advice about the airline.

http://my.fool.com/profile/TMFGemHunter/activity.aspx

 

[bob@las-AA]

Unfortunately true. And a big reason why people don't want to take CC here. A lot of CC don't feel they get any support from anyone if they get stuck with a slug. It's also somewhat they're fault though because they're not very tough on them during probation and the friends the newbie has or makes when on probation basically tell them they can get away with murder.

If you're going to ever consider taking CC here you better grow a very thick skin fast.

 
I 'm going to have to give ya +10 green, I been asked, so why don't you become CC, and I ask my self, "self, how come you don't become CC?" And it can be answered in two parts, way tooo many slugs that spend more energy trying to get out of work, crybabies complaining that they are not getting a 2 hour lunch, mad because our gate gets more than 4 flights, people with 25+ years not knowing anything about their basic and essential job function, accident prone people, people who just before a flight arrives hop in a tractor and take off, the blatant disregardful disregard for proper procedure, and I could go on and on.       

 

[cltrat]

I 'm going to have to give ya +10 green, I been asked, so why don't you become CC, and I ask my self, "self, how come you don't become CC?" And it can be answered in two parts, way tooo many slugs that spend more energy trying to get out of work, crybabies complaining that they are not getting a 2 hour lunch, mad because our gate gets more than 4 flights, people with 25+ years not knowing anything about their basic and essential job function, accident prone people, people who just before a flight arrives hop in a tractor and take off, the blatant disregardful disregard for proper procedure, and I could go on and on.

damn and I thought being one here was bad

 

[bob@las-AA]

damn and I thought being one here was bad

 
My problem,...... thinking everyone has and shares the same work ethic as I do. 

 

[Kev3188]

I'm lucky in that I've got a pretty decent crew. Wasn't always that way, though...

 

[cltrat]

My problem,...... thinking everyone has and shares the same work ethic as I do.

I feel ya man ,here we bid by work area teams 1-6.If you're a CC in an area you rotate gates each day. crews are assigned to a flight by an assign lead.Here the biggest problem is getting them to the gate obliviously some are better when they get there than others
I like that better than I think I would bid by gate which has been talked about here

 

[WeAAsles]

The overall by far majority of people I've worked with in 3 different stations have great work ethics. They show up on time and hustle to get the job done when it's needed. Sometimes they hustle too much IMO.

The worst part I would say about being a CC is the sometimes constant complainers. Exactly what Bob said. If they were lucky enough to get a great lunch yesterday they complain when the lunch wasn't so great today. If they don't get help on a heavy trip they complain. "People" pretty much just love complaining. Maybe it's in the nature? But the CC becomes the target of those complaints. It's not an easy job unless the CC sets the rules early? "Listen I'm not here to hear your complaints, you don't like it badge out and go home"

Mostly of course I'm talking about the guys who are habitual. (Used to be me too)

 

[bob@las-AA]

I feel ya man ,here we bid by work area teams 1-6.If you're a CC in an area you rotate gates each day. crews are assigned to a flight by an assign lead.Here the biggest problem is getting them to the gate obliviously some are better when they get there than othersI like that better than I think I would bid by gate which has been talked about here

Here in DFW, unless you know all the clerks and CC, it's hard to get a good crew. You bid on a gate after the CC bids, and hopefully he/she is a good one, then, like me, you just have to wait for the others to bid on your gate underneath you. By that time it's too late and you have to make the best of it.

 

[WeAAsles]

I feel ya man ,here we bid by work area teams 1-6.If you're a CC in an area you rotate gates each day. crews are assigned to a flight by an assign lead.Here the biggest problem is getting them to the gate obliviously some are better when they get there than othersI like that better than I think I would bid by gate which has been talked about here

I prefer bidding and staying on my own gate as much as possible. If you have enough seniority you can bid a decent gate with a decent gatehouse. Makes life easier to head to the same place every day.

 

[WeAAsles]

Here in DFW, unless you know all the clerks and CC, it's hard to get a good crew. You bid on a gate after the CC bids, and hopefully he/she is a good one, then, like me, you just have to wait for the others to bid on your gate underneath you. By that time it's too late and you have to make the best of it.

Bob nothing personal but it's also about seniority. Most guys (Like me) when they've been with the job long enough stop complaining. We get to the point where we realize the complaints aren't changing anything anyway and are only causing ourselves the grief.

You come in, do what you need to do and go home safe and in one piece. Simple.

 

[cltrat]

Here in DFW, unless you know all the clerks and CC, it's hard to get a good crew. You bid on a gate after the CC bids, and hopefully he/she is a good one, then, like me, you just have to wait for the others to bid on your gate underneath you. By that time it's too late and you have to make the best of it.

here having a good relationship with the assign lead never hurts when it comes to getting a good crew