JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet

[WeAAsles]

No IAM International or District elections for 4 years.

Tuffa Lucka

Fixed it for you Tim. Now good luck. Nice knowing you. It’s certainly been both fun and interesting. I hope you do get back to Cleveland.

Take care of yourself buddy.

 

[cltrat]

Weez you know where the irony is thickest on this? All these people he hates and rails against he helped elect pretty much all of them

 

[WeAAsles]

Weez you know where the irony is thickest on this? All these people he hates and rails against he helped elect pretty much all of them

As a psychological profile Tim is highly Religious and has a degree in Theology. Believe it or not I think Tim sees himself as a Messianic figure and one where none of his actions against others matter since they don’t serve the higher calling he believes he’s been appointed to?

Anyone even indirectly that he may have helped propel into a position if they don’t follow his perceived wisdom is branded a Judas and cast away from his gaze and concern.

Dude is just one sick F’n puppy.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Weez you know where the irony is thickest on this? All these people he hates and rails against he helped elect pretty much all of them

actually I dont' hate any of them. I get along with all of them. Period. Even my opponents in ORD, pretty good guys. But I'm not loyal to them not doing the job of enforcing contracts. Period. And I could no longer organize for the IAM after they screwed the first bunch I brought in. That said, the biggest single thing that YOU should be pissed about, but aren't, is the fact that WE don't have one damn Fleet service member in there for us. Only 2 mechanics. One thing we all know is that the Mechanics don't have our best interest in mind. Period! And it's proven that way with our 1998 agreement, and our first 2008 agreement that Tommy Reagan negotiated in which that clown agreed to leave in the seniority cleansing language. We had to vote his contract out, and I made that an issue on a campaign and we finally got it out of there after we gave Tommy the Boot. Well, guess who is in there again for us? That goof is in there to pull back our reins again in the interest of MX. You may disagree and you may swallow his talk, but there is a reason why Mr Baskett and others are prohibited from the executive team. They tried that with Gary Peterson but Gary is an independent mind and would have no part of that. We have no independent minds in Fleet.

You wanna know why we can say with certainty that LUS medical is now toast? Because we have ZERO LUS fleet on the national executive team.

 

[WeAAsles]

actually I dont' hate any of them. I get along with all of them. Period. Even my opponents in ORD, pretty good guys. But I'm not loyal to them not doing the job of enforcing contracts. Period. And I could no longer organize for the IAM after they screwed the first bunch I brought in. That said, the biggest single thing that YOU should be pissed about, but aren't, is the fact that WE don't have one damn Fleet service member in there for us. Only 2 mechanics. One thing we all know is that the Mechanics don't have our best interest in mind. Period! And it's proven that way with our 1998 agreement, and our first 2008 agreement that Tommy Reagan negotiated in which that clown agreed to leave in the seniority cleansing language. We had to vote his contract out, and I made that an issue on a campaign and we finally got it out of there after we gave Tommy the Boot. Well, guess who is in there again for us? That goof is in there to pull back our reins again in the interest of MX. You may disagree and you may swallow his talk, but there is a reason why Mr Baskett and others are prohibited from the executive team. They tried that with Gary Peterson but Gary is an independent mind and would have no part of that. We have no independent minds in Fleet.

You wanna know why we can say with certainty that LUS medical is now toast? Because we have ZERO LUS fleet on the national executive team.

Oh God. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Etc, etc.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Oh God. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Etc, etc.

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and you were doing so well keeping up in an adult manner until you reverted. Focus on talking about the JCBA Weezle. Personally, at this point, I'm uncomfortable with us fleet not moving forward until MX is done. Granted, you don't care about LUS fleet and the fact that we have nobody in the negotiation sessions that is involved in negotiations. But i'm very uncomfortable with it. None of them have LUS health care and especially tommy Reagan doesn't care.

 

[WeAAsles]

and you were doing so well keeping up in an adult manner until you reverted. Focus on talking about the JCBA Weezle. Personally, at this point, I'm uncomfortable with us fleet not moving forward until MX is done. Granted, you don't care about LUS fleet and the fact that we have nobody in the negotiation sessions that is involved in negotiations. But i'm very uncomfortable with it. None of them have LUS health care and especially tommy Reagan doesn't care.

I honestly don’t believe for even a quarter of a second that you want or even really have the ability of holding an honest and adult conversation on pretty much any issue at all? But ok.

First I have confidence myself for Fleet in Alex and Mike and that they’re providing info and going with the recommendations of the other TWU Fleet Presidents. I’m very sorry you consider your AGC’s to I guess be willing to Prostitute themselves out to the Leadership for anything they may be adamantly against. (I don’t think they will)

Now isn’t Tom Regan the guy who got you those medical prices in the first place? Why do you really think he wants to hose you on that? Why?

You say they’re Mechanics and only care about Mechanics. Aren’t your Mechanics also paying the same for Medical that you do? Do you think Fleet will lose the Medical but Mechanics will keep it? You’re being highly illogical Doctor McCoy.

Now on another note. You “claim” Fleet is going up by $2.00 per hour. $2.00 per hour is $320.00 per month. What is the max upguage in cost for a family plan between the two groups costs? And I still don’t believe you’re going to get the one year directly to the next sticker shock increase even if you do come all the way up to 21%? IMO it will happen at worst over a period of time.

So essentially by then your wage increases in intervening years will blunt the increased cost of that medical (The one you admit you don’t care about for yourself anyway)

Now let’s see if I can get an adult intelligent response? (Hmmmm)

 

[WeAAsles]

and you were doing so well keeping up in an adult manner until you reverted. Focus on talking about the JCBA Weezle. Personally, at this point, I'm uncomfortable with us fleet not moving forward until MX is done. Granted, you don't care about LUS fleet and the fact that we have nobody in the negotiation sessions that is involved in negotiations. But i'm very uncomfortable with it. None of them have LUS health care and especially tommy Reagan doesn't care.

And of course you would be uncomfortable waiting for our Maintenance Brothers and Sisters. Because you’re not a Unionist and have no concept on the ideology actually. Sad.

 

[NYer]

"Now let’s see if I can get an adult intelligent response? (Hmmmm)"

 

[WeAAsles]

"Now let’s see if I can get an adult intelligent response? (Hmmmm)"

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Yes. Can I have that link please?

Edit: And in case you can’t provide that link I’d like to know how you were able to mine the date and the quote itself?

 

[Tim Nelson]

I honestly don’t believe for even a quarter of a second that you want or even really have the ability of holding an honest and adult conversation on pretty much any issue at all? But ok.

First I have confidence myself for Fleet in Alex and Mike and that they’re providing info and going with the recommendations of the other TWU Fleet Presidents. I’m very sorry you consider your AGC’s to I guess be willing to Prostitute themselves out to the Leadership for anything they may be adamantly against. (I don’t think they will)

Now isn’t Tom Regan the guy who got you those medical prices in the first place? Why do you really think he wants to hose you on that? Why?

You say they’re Mechanics and only care about Mechanics. Aren’t your Mechanics also paying the same for Medical that you do? Do you think Fleet will lose the Medical but Mechanics will keep it? You’re being highly illogical Doctor McCoy.

Now on another note. You “claim” Fleet is going up by $2.00 per hour. $2.00 per hour is $320.00 per month. What is the max upguage in cost for a family plan between the two groups costs? And I still don’t believe you’re going to get the one year directly to the next sticker shock increase even if you do come all the way up to 21%? IMO it will happen at worst over a period of time.

So essentially by then your wage increases in intervening years will blunt the increased cost of that medical (The one you admit you don’t care about for yourself anyway)

Now let’s see if I can get an adult intelligent response? (Hmmmm)

Hard to follow your rambling response but tommy reagan never got us anything as we had to remove him in 2008 after he agreed with management to strip all fleet seniority from any member who was laid off for 60 days insomuch that they went back to day 1 pay even if they had 30 yrs. When we asked him why the mx didnt do that, he claimed they were skilled.
In 1998 we had only mx negotiate and it was a disaster. No. Our agcs arent strong enuf to stand on their own like gary. Mr baskett doesnt want to give up lus health but that doesnt matter since he is a pollyanna for fairbanks who will tell Mr Baskett exactly what he needs to do.
Real talk.

 

[Tim Nelson]

And of course you would be uncomfortable waiting for our Maintenance Brothers and Sisters. Because you’re not a Unionist and have no concept on the ideology actually. Sad.

Stick your idealogy when its ripping off 1 group.

 

[WeAAsles]

Hard to follow your rambling response but tommy reagan never got us anything as we had to remove him in 2008 after he agreed with management to strip all fleet seniority from any member who was laid off for 60 days insomuch that they went back to day 1 pay even if they had 30 yrs. When we asked him why the mx didnt do that, he claimed they were skilled.
In 1998 we had only mx negotiate and it was a disaster. No. Our agcs arent strong enuf to stand on their own like gary. Mr baskett doesnt want to give up lus health but that doesnt matter since he is a pollyanna for fairbanks who will tell Mr Baskett exactly what he needs to do.
Real talk.

You see. This is why. To me it’s a complete waste of time to even TRY to converse with you civilly. All that comes out of you is a heaping pile of BS meant to undermine other people to try and prop what you have to say to the forefront.

Remember you’re the guy who doesn’t care about credibility remember. “Your own words”

 

[Tim Nelson]

Yes. Can I have that link please?

Edit: And in case you can’t provide that link I’d like to know how you were able to mine the date and quote itself?

See, here you go again. Dude i think you must have a prescription for depression or something cuz you have a couple adult post but cant keep the string going. Then you get KOd everytime by NYer and you walk right into it. I personally dont even get the impression that he ever attacks you but, for whatever reason, you flip out on him.
Personally, i think lehives promise of a gig in return for political favors to alex as well, you have to trash NYer.
Sad

 

[WeAAsles]

Stick your idealogy when its ripping off 1 group.

And this is why I always have to revert back to Memes and YouTubes when it comes to you.

You’re not worth ANYTHING more Tim.