JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet

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I've seen that comparison of the total employees at AA vs DL, and I must say that's a staggering difference given that we are pretty close in size. Being the numbers guy that Parker and crew are, I can't see this lasting long term.
 
I've seen that comparison of the total employees at AA vs DL, and I must say that's a staggering difference given that we are pretty close in size. Being the numbers guy that Parker and crew are, I can't see this lasting long term.


40,000 more FT Employees. We’re not going to go down as low as DL IMO but absolutely head numbers will be shaved. Probably begin the process shortly after they have the last CBA’s in place?

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Ya know Tim, we do agree on this, after all this time, the weez, (after close investigation), has a less than a desirable work ethic, things are filtering down here at DFW, and from the sounds of things, it's not good. And I speak the truth not like that POS B.Parker.
Believe it or not, his lack of work ethic is known in ord as well. The one guy up here said his name describes him, i.e., we weasles out of work. I dont work with him so his lazyness means nothing to me. Not saying people hate him, they just prefer not to work with him. I personally feel he is useful in drawing out some jcba issues.

I thought B Parker was well liked in dfw?
 
Believe it or not, his lack of work ethic is known in ord as well. The one guy up here said his name describes him, i.e., we weasles out of work. I dont work with him so his lazyness means nothing to me. Not saying people hate him, they just prefer not to work with him. I personally feel he is useful in drawing out some jcba issues.

I thought B Parker was well liked in dfw?


770 to 20. NEXT?

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Ok so the Profit Sharing is now showing in Jetnet/Workbrain. My Gross before taxes was $1400.00 and change. So when I broke it down to what I consider to be it’s “true” worth, it breaks down to .7 Cents per hour. .7 x 40 x 52 = $1400.00 and change.

.7 cents.

Enjoy that PS folks.

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Not sure about your math... top of head numbers tell me you missed a digit. Figure 2,080 hours in a work year (52 weeks x 40 hours) and the gross for you on the PS was $1,400? Obviously, not a 1:1 ratio, but closer to 70 cent per hour or actually, 67.3 cents per hour as calculated, not 7 cents.

Not to say it was anything to crow about as obviously, a $2/hour raise would be more significant, but just keepin' it real.
 
Not sure about your math... top of head numbers tell me you missed a digit. Figure 2,080 hours in a work year (52 weeks x 40 hours) and the gross for you on the PS was $1,400? Obviously, not a 1:1 ratio, but closer to 70 cent per hour or actually, 67.3 cents per hour as calculated, not 7 cents.

Not to say it was anything to crow about as obviously, a $2/hour raise would be more significant, but just keepin' it real.


Damn man I’m an idiot. I was putting in .7 for the math not thinking it would need to be .07 if I was doing 7 cents.

I’m officially a mathematical moron.
 
What you have to remember is this... It's not the human element (people) he hates... it's the 'institution'. Those that have known him for decades all say the same thing.

It's like weez said -- theologically, and politically, the real interest here is to undermine the IAM/TWU institution (or any Union) simply because it's a GREAT EVIL in the minds of not just him, but millions of religious conservatives all over this country. You can thank corporate lobbyist for spending hundreds of millions, if not billions on perpetuating this belief. The current administration in DC (if left unchecked) will eventually weaken the RLA with nationalized right to work laws. This will create a mass exodus of dues payers, rendering the airline labor groups neutered, and unable to finance negotiations or grievances.
Do your research!

You will hear people claim the thread is going off topic if you discuss this politically here.The reality is, without the institution, there would be no need for the thread! -- Think about it!

>SPIT<

Actually, I see Tim as more of a Liberation Theologian regardless of his personal grand ambitions. Pro-Labor, moral conservative on personal matters and more liberal on social justice. The ideology has also been referred to as "Social Christianity".
 
https://www.law.com/njlawjournal/20...ourly-workers-in-american-airlines-wage-suit/


Baggage handlers and maintenance workers at American Airlines were granted certification Tuesday in a class action suit claiming the company programmed its time clocks to round down and reduce the amount of time employees are credited with working.

The company’s timekeeping system credits workers for the period of time they are scheduled to work, but the system cuts off pay for those who put in a longer shift than scheduled, according to the suit. The suit claims violations of New Jersey’s Wage and Hour Law on behalf of American employees at Newark Liberty International Airport.

Chief Judge Jose Linares granted the plaintiffs’ motion to certify three subclasses of American employees who claimed they were denied full compensation for work performed. The subclasses were for those who claimed they were not paid for work performed before and after their scheduled shifts, while on the clock; during unpaid meal periods; and before clocking in or after clocking out.

The suit claims American configured its time clocks to round down and reduce the amount of time employees are credited with working, thereby depriving them of wages and overtime they are entitled to receive. But the system does not add time to workers who clock out early.

The suit also accuses American of improperly offering its hourly employees compensatory time in lieu of payments for overtime, and requesting that baggage handlers perform off-the-clock work before clocking in, after clocking out and during uncompensated meal breaks.

Nine named plaintiffs testified in depositions that American Airlines employees were required by managers to routinely arrive early and stay late to finish their work, to compensate for a shortage of labor, to attend meetings, and to complete training; that the timekeeping system defaulted to pay employees based only on their scheduled hours; and the amount of time for which employees performed work beyond their normal schedules and during meal periods ranges from one to four hours of uncompensated time each week.

The named plaintiffs are all paid by the hour at rates ranging from $11.69 to $41, according to a court filing.

American Airlines, which is headquartered in Fort Worth, Texas, argued that the plaintiffs’ claims cannot be resolved on a classwide basis because employees who would clock in early or clock out late spent that time socializing, drinking coffee, watching television or reading. But Linares said discovery should address whether American’s hourly employees engage in personal activities during the periods raised by plaintiffs, since some of the named plaintiffs disputed that assertion in depositions, and those allegations do not merit denying class certification.

In addition, even though there is some variation among class members concerning job performance, “the fact remains that the named plaintiffs allege that American had a company-wide policy in place at one location, i.e., Newark Liberty International Airport, to avoid paying its employees for all of the time that they worked. The fact that there will be individualized variations among the members of the putative class as to their reasons for working through meal breaks, for clocking in early or clocking out late, or for working off the clock, should not defeat the certification of this action as a class action,” Linares said.

Plaintiffs have maintained in court papers that there are at least 100 class members and that the class members’ claims exceed $5 million in the aggregate.

“We think this is a fantastic result for our guys. They were getting shorted anywhere from one to four hours per week,” said Brett Gallaway of McLaughlin & Stern in New York who represents the class along with Lee Shalov of the same firm.

Gallaway said the plaintiffs believe American’s timekeeping procedures are employed uniformly nationwide. However, the suit is brought only on behalf of New Jersey workers because the federal Fair Labor Standards Act exempts employees of common carriers such as American Airlines, he said. But New Jersey’s wage-and-hour laws grant specific protections to airline employees, said Gallaway.

According to Gallaway, American Airlines compensates employees who are shortchanged by the timekeeping system if they obtain approval from bosses. However, in practice, such requests are often denied, so that employees often fail to make a request, he said.

Jeffrey Kohn and Mark Robertson of O’Melveny & Myers in New York, who represent American Airlines, did not respond to a request for comment about the ruling. An American Airlines spokesman, Justin Franco, said the company would not comment.
 
Actually, I see Tim as more of a Liberation Theologian regardless of his personal grand ambitions. Pro-Labor, moral conservative on personal matters and more liberal on social justice. The ideology has also been referred to as "Social Christianity".


Or he could just be a raving kook?
 
Judging by his recent comments I do not think he is pro-labor
What comments are those? To be sure, I identify myself as pro worker. And I do believe it is permissible to Fire and replace Labor organizations if they are not servicing our union properly. More often than not now, the Labor Organizations are into Corporate Unionism and so those of us who are Labor Leftist can't tolerate such corporate invasion.
 
He’s not. His catchphrase is he’s pro-worker. He’s out to get all of those Union bosses by running to be a Union boss himself? Huh?
Do you have to chime in on every single conversation? Geez Louise.

I'll tell you what Dr Know, answer me this, if your boy Alex continues d(cking around yielding to Sito and getting close to section 6, we lose more leverage and the chances of the Ass hosing us will grow due to the fact that you have that "Cinderella Clause" in your contract. Seems as if you forget about that one.

Josh, how many LAA stations do NOT cross that "Drop Dead" Threshold? I get the feeling that Alex's bell ringer won't say.
 
Tim, this is what NYer said in July:

They go by annual departures with the threshold being 5475 (measured every six months and going back 12)

The last list of annual departures reads as follows:

SJU 4366
SAT 4788
ATL 5309
TPA 5412
STL 6013

Josh
 
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