JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet

[NYer]

Where is the data to support it?

Where is yours?

 

[WeAAsles]

I still think in the end the retirement costs to the company are about the same 401+ or IAMPF (Not to mentions the billions AA still pays into the frozen AA plan). Guess I should have went into catering huh

I suspect you’re right that the costs between the two are fairly identical to the Company’s actuaries.

 

[Tom Talbert 1888]

Where is yours?

Apparently the same place as yours.

In reality it looks like we’re both speculating then aren’t we, if we can’t back up our claims.

Do you always neglect to answer a question poised to you in a debate?

 

[NYer]

Apparently the same place as yours.

In reality it looks like we’re both speculating then aren’t we, if we can’t back up our claims.

Do you always neglect to answer a question poised to you in a debate?

No, but trying to disprove an argument doesn't make the counter argument correct.

If I make a claim it is usually after careful consideration of all points, which I can debate.

 

[Tom Talbert 1888]

Still no supporting data.

 

[737823]

Still no supporting data.

Sorta like the alliance/Association “vote” that was to take place in 2013/14?

Josh

 

[Colonel.Ramp]

On another note I'm proud of my old Piedmont brothers and sisters. The Ass. should take heed.
https://worldairlinenews.com/2017/1...tside-phl-clt-and-phx-international-airports/

 

[swamt]

On another note I'm proud of my old Piedmont brothers and sisters. The Ass. should take heed.
https://worldairlinenews.com/2017/1...tside-phl-clt-and-phx-international-airports/

And here are even more unions upset no contracts are completed and claiming non livable wages also at Piedmont Airlines.
Workers At American Airlines Subsidiary Say Starting Hourly Pay...

And here is the Spirit Pilots picketing at DFW for their on going nego's of 2 years plus. It's all happening thru-out the industry with all groups...
Spirit Airlines pilots picket at DFW Airport over contract...

 

[Tim Nelson]

Took them into account, as a whole it is more expensive.

The TWU participation is offset by having the 401K match as per hour worked as opposed to the IAM contribution which is for scheduled hours.

Im not sure of the total breakdown but a new hire iam employee has 10% go into his iampf since the contribution is no respector of the wage scale.

 

[WeAAsles]

November 21, 2017


The Executive Negotiating Committee will be meeting with American Airlines over the weeks of November 27 & December 4; in an attempt to close out open, non-economic, items specific to the groups within M&R. The expectation out of these sessions is to move into Scope & Economics for M&R and Stores, as well as continue Fleet Service, the week of December 11.



If American Airlines is serious about their promise of giving the members the “best contract” in the industry, then the week of December 11 should prove to be instrumental in bringing these negotiations closer to closure; if not bring them to a closure.



While this letter provides a perspective of what sounds like positive movement, I caution all members to remember that no agreement can be reached, until every article is closed. Historically, Scope and Economics are the most contentious areas of any airline negotiation and if I were to leave you with any other thought I would be doing you a disservice. The only way to reach the conclusion of these negotiations, with a Tentative Agreement that our members will ratify, is if American’s leaders come to the bargaining table ready and willing to negotiate the contract they promised their employees and one our members deserve.



Fraternally,

Gary Peterson

 

[Tim Nelson]

November 21, 2017


The Executive Negotiating Committee will be meeting with American Airlines over the weeks of November 27 & December 4; in an attempt to close out open, non-economic, items specific to the groups within M&R. The expectation out of these sessions is to move into Scope & Economics for M&R and Stores, as well as continue Fleet Service, the week of December 11.



If American Airlines is serious about their promise of giving the members the “best contract” in the industry, then the week of December 11 should prove to be instrumental in bringing these negotiations closer to closure; if not bring them to a closure.



While this letter provides a perspective of what sounds like positive movement, I caution all members to remember that no agreement can be reached, until every article is closed. Historically, Scope and Economics are the most contentious areas of any airline negotiation and if I were to leave you with any other thought I would be doing you a disservice. The only way to reach the conclusion of these negotiations, with a Tentative Agreement that our members will ratify, is if American’s leaders come to the bargaining table ready and willing to negotiate the contract they promised their employees and one our members deserve.



Fraternally,

Gary Peterson

Yaawwwnnnnn

 

[WeAAsles]

Yaawwwnnnnn

Yes Tim we know. The asshat pimps are holding it all back until after you win your election in April so you can clean house on those Union bosses and celebrate with the Stews.

Duly noted.

 

[The Truth Will Set U Free]

November 21, 2017


The Executive Negotiating Committee will be meeting with American Airlines over the weeks of November 27 & December 4; in an attempt to close out open, non-economic, items specific to the groups within M&R. The expectation out of these sessions is to move into Scope & Economics for M&R and Stores, as well as continue Fleet Service, the week of December 11.



If American Airlines is serious about their promise of giving the members the “best contract” in the industry, then the week of December 11 should prove to be instrumental in bringing these negotiations closer to closure; if not bring them to a closure.



While this letter provides a perspective of what sounds like positive movement, I caution all members to remember that no agreement can be reached, until every article is closed. Historically, Scope and Economics are the most contentious areas of any airline negotiation and if I were to leave you with any other thought I would be doing you a disservice. The only way to reach the conclusion of these negotiations, with a Tentative Agreement that our members will ratify, is if American’s leaders come to the bargaining table ready and willing to negotiate the contract they promised their employees and one our members deserve.



Fraternally,

Gary Peterson

This is a Joke. The company already put something on the Table and This Ass Money refused to let us see it. Its time to REMOVE the people that are on the NC and replace them with someone that is not scared to let us see what is offered. Wake the Hell up people.

 

[The Truth Will Set U Free]

Yes Tim we know. The asshat pimps are holding it all back until after you win your




Yes Tim we know. The asshat pimps are holding it all back until after you win your election in April so you can clean house on those Union bosses and celebrate with the Stews.

Duly noted.[/QUOTE
You got it wrong. He is a Ass Monkey. And He WILL be REMOVED soon enough.

 

[bob@las-AA]

This is a Joke. The company already put something on the Table and This Ass Money refused to let us see it. Its time to REMOVE the people that are on the NC and replace them with someone that is not scared to let us see what is offered. Wake the Hell up people.

And just what advantage would we gain by knowing the companies hand.