JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet. **New and improved 2.0 version**

[The Watcher]

i don't argue the gist of your post..

...aa has double the cash on hand than dl does.

when dl needs to spend $10 billion to update and upgrade their fleet, will you warn us about dl's debt?

AA has $9 Billion, DL has over $7 billion, last time I checked 14 is double of 7.

 

[WeAAsles]

i don't argue the gist of your post..

...aa has double the cash on hand than dl does.

when dl needs to spend $10 billion to update and upgrade their fleet, will you warn us about dl's debt?

Life itself is about riding a surfboard on a wave. Sometimes the wave gets a little rough and the ride becomes choppy but if you start to get nervous or scared you’re just going to wipe out and then have to flounder to try and keep your head above water.

“American will never lose money again”

Doug Parker.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/chiefe...ll-never-lose-money-says-ceo-doug-parker/amp/

 

[CremaDiLimone]

i just read the most recent quarter...5.something to 2.something.

the question still stands: will you warn us of dl's debt when they need to spend $10 billion on their aging fleet?

 

[CremaDiLimone]

does this mean there will be a chance of dl filing for bk?

 

[The Watcher]

The issue is Delta is in better financial shape than AA.

Delta doesn’t have to buy new planes, AA has to pay its debt when it’s due.

Look at the Debt to Equity ratio.

And you do know the maintenance holiday is coming to an end for a lot of AA’s fleet, increase in cost.

They are parking 45 738s soon, the 333, the E190s and the MD80s and AA is in talks for a widebody purchase with both Boeing and Airbus as AA has to make a decision on the A350 purchases.

So AA will be adding to debt also.

Just saying.

 

[Kev3188]

The issue is Delta is in better financial shape than AA.

Delta doesn’t have to buy new planes, AA has to pay its debt when it’s due.

Look at the Debt to Equity ratio.

DL is buying new and used both.

 

[WeAAsles]

this issue was talked about before, i do believe it is a write-off.

if aa offered everyone eligible $1 million to leave...it would cost a lot more than $125k and aa would find itself seriously short of mechanics & fscs. not realistic.

It does become a write down on taxes or at least it did before the tax changes but that of course doesn’t mean that AA gets all of that money back when they declare losses.

They’re not going to offer a Million that’s for sure but if they ever did it would probably be so restrictive by age that you’d need 75 years with AA to get it.

Someone call Al Blackburn and tell him it’s coming.

 

[The Watcher]

Exactly and being smart with debt.

 

[robbedagain]

WeAA. I try not to entertain them . but esp josh needs facts bec his anti union anti select airline bs he spews gets mighty old fast. As far as Tim he says this and that but reality has proven otherwise

 

[CremaDiLimone]

like i said, i didn't argue the gist of your post. if aa spent $10 billion on debt instead of buying back shares, the stock would be at $35 right now. wall street doesn't like aa.

the fact is, dl will have to spend money that it doesn't have in it's pocket on a new fleet.

aa has also given itself wiggle room to double/triple/quadruple it's dividend, by buying back a massive amount of shares. we know that parker is obsessed with the share price.

 

[CremaDiLimone]

Just saying.

but you're not saying if you will warn us of dl's debt, like you are of aa's debt. aa didn't spend all that money on losing lottery tickets. will dl get free airplanes?

 

[ALUS78]

It does become a write down on taxes or at least it did before the tax changes but that of course doesn’t mean that AA gets all of that money back when they declare losses.

They’re not going to offer a Million that’s for sure but if they ever did it would probably be so restrictive by age that you’d need 75 years with AA to get it.

Someone call Al Blackburn and tell him it’s coming.

They want people to go they would bridge medical

 

[ALUS78]

like i said, i didn't argue the gist of your post. if aa spent $10 billion on debt instead of buying back shares, the stock would be at $35 right now. wall street doesn't like aa.

the fact is, dl will have to spend money that it doesn't have in it's pocket on a new fleet.

aa has also given itself wiggle room to double/triple/quadruple it's dividend, by buying back a massive amount of shares. we know that parker is obsessed with the share price.

The company is in better shape than its ever been,we have never been more secure.Do you go around daycare centers and tell kids there is no Santa?Very depressing indeed

 

[The Watcher]

but you're not saying if you will warn us of dl's debt, like you are of aa's debt. aa didn't spend all that money on losing lottery tickets. will dl get free airplanes?

Your putting the cart before the horse.

Your going with what if’s, I posted what’s going on.

 

[WeAAsles]

They want people to go they would bridge medical

You mean “If” they want people to go they would bridge Medical.

Correct.

What the Company doesn’t understand and maybe doesn’t care about is that most people who might take the buyout have zero clue that there is a World outside of AA and that they can buy their Medical on the open Market rather that any full price offer the Conpany would be so kind to offer them. (Psychopathic rates)

Now the fact is because of that buyout being added to their gross income for the year they’re absolutely not going to be able to qualify for any subsides on the ACA and are going to have to pay full price wherever they ultimately chose to live and seek out insurance.

Even that $65,000 after taxes will drain out over time if an individual is paying a grand a month for their own pre 65 insurance.

If AA offered at least a bridge between 60 to 65 at an employee subsidized rate they could wind up getting a ton of takers. And in 5 years they’re completely off the books. (1 Contract)