JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet. **New and improved 2.0 version**

[WeAAsles]

Hit my 10 year mark this month weez, Albert would have been proud.

All kidding aside Bob congratulations.

 

[WeAAsles]

As far as OT, I cannot say much on that because I just don’t do any.

You’d hear though cause any time the OT dries up it’s all people talk about.

 

[cltrat]

OT ebbs and flows more and less in Clt always has

 

[NYer]

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"...the number of part time employees will not exceed forty percent (40%) of the total Fleet Service work force calculated on a system-wide basis."

If the 40% is determined by how the IAM language reads, it seems we're at 24% rather than 31%.

 

[Kev3188]

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Safe to assume Crew Chiefs are counted as FT on this list? Does LAA have PT CC's?

 

[NYer]

Safe to assume Crew Chiefs are counted as FT on this list? Does LAA have PT CC's?

We have the language but there are very few in the system.

Update: looks like there 5 PT CC systemwide.

 

[P. REZ]

Update

Your NC is going to DCA for a meeting next Thursday, March 29th, for an update on the status of negotiations.

P. Rez

 

[dfw gen]

Update

Your NC is going to DCA for a meeting next Thursday, March 29th, for an update on the status of negotiations.

P. Rez

And at what point does the membership get an update? Not the billshit fluff we have been getting. In the third year of negotiations it would be nice to know what we are adking for, whats been t.a'd this top secret **** is bullhorn

 

[WeAAsles]

And at what point does the membership get an update? Not the billshit fluff we have been getting. In the third year of negotiations it would be nice to know what we are adking for, whats been t.a'd this top secret **** is bullhorn

One thing I’ve never done on Forums is come over to YOUR thread to berate YOUR Negotiators. Any chance maybe you can ask your OWN Negotiators what you want?

Oh that’s right I forgot.

 

[WeAAsles]

Update

Your NC is going to DCA for a meeting next Thursday, March 29th, for an update on the status of negotiations.

P. Rez

Thank you for the information Prez.

 

[P. REZ]

And at what point does the membership get an update? Not the billshit fluff we have been getting. In the third year of negotiations it would be nice to know what we are adking for, whats been t.a'd this top secret **** is bullhorn

DFW gen,

Everything has been TA'd except scope, vacation weeks, duration of agreement, insurance, pension/401k and a few other pieces of an article or two.

P. Rez

 

[WeAAsles]

DFW gen,

Everything has been TA'd except scope, vacation weeks, duration of agreement, insurance, pension/401k and a few other pieces of an article or two.

P. Rez

Scope is big especially if the Company is looking to cut out a number of OH positions and the totality of Facilities Maintenance. Not to mention Deicing on our side if they haven’t yet backed off that one too.

Did you read the TWU Local 591 update I posted on the Maintenance thread Rez. They make it sound kind of bleak?

 

[NYer]

I didn’t encompass LUS ratios because frankly I don’t have any solid number to try with, however 31% is LAA’s current ratio as of today.

For comparison purposes, it's good to use the same formula

 

[Jester]

"...the number of part time employees will not exceed forty percent (40%) of the total Fleet Service work force calculated on a system-wide basis."

If the 40% is determined by how the IAM language reads, it seems we're at 24% rather than 31%.

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Bob,

Not sure I agree with your math as you have PT/FT for the percentage, whereas NYer cites the total Fleet Service as the denominator. For example, if we have 50 PT and 100 FT, your percentage would be 50% (50/100); however, using NYer's standard the percentage would be 33% (50/(100+50)). Obviously, the difference would be substantial. In my experiences with HP/US, we used NYer's methodology.

 

[Jester]

DFW gen,

Everything has been TA'd except scope, vacation weeks, duration of agreement, insurance, pension/401k and a few other pieces of an article or two.

P. Rez

No offense, and I haven't been sitting at the table, but that sounds like a great deal still unresolved. Four of those issues would be on most people's Top 5 in terms of importance (wages, obviously, being #1 or #2). So much for the March T.A. many predicted.