JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet. **New and improved 2.0 version**

[ALUS78]

There’s no scope at either DL or B6...

What do you call it you are in a station that would be closed under any union contract

 

[WeAAsles]

Well I dont know but Delta and Jetblue have better scope right now and where they have RR ee have a contract company

Al simple question, yes or no. I say no.


Do you think if Baggage Handlers didn’t belong to any Unions at all we would have better terms of employment right now?

 

[WeAAsles]

Absolutely

There isn’t Al. Scope is contractual language that does have some legal protections.

 

[737823]

There’s no scope at either DL or B6...

And how many mainline staffed stations have closed in the past decade?

AA, UA, US and even WN have all done so even with their “ironclad” scope.

Josh

 

[WeAAsles]

And how many mainline staffed stations have closed in the past decade?

AA, UA, US and even WN have all done so even with their “ironclad” scope.

Josh

Never ONCE in clear violation of any active scope agreements Sir. Only through the language allowing them to be, voluntary concessions or Bankruptcy Judges gavels where all creditors took baths as well.

 

[WeAAsles]

Al in 1992 US “Management” decided to freeze your Defined Benefit Pension. What voice did you get in that decision? What other groups besides yours had their Pensions frozen?

 

[ALUS78]

Al simple question, yes or no. I say no.


Do you think if Baggage Handlers didn’t belong to any Unions at all we would have better terms of employment right now?

I cant say I told you I personally did better without

 

[ALUS78]

Al in 1992 US “Management” decided to freeze your Defined Benefit Pension. What voice did you get in that decision? What other groups besides yours had their Pensions frozen?

Weez more was taken from me under the IAM contract thats all I can say

 

[ALUS78]

Never ONCE in clear violation of any active scope agreements Sir. Only through the language allowing them to be, voluntary concessions or Bankruptcy Judges gavels where all creditors took baths as well.[/QUOT
So if there is a way around contracts what good are they?

 

[WeAAsles]

I cant say I told you I personally did better without

You know Al maybe we would do better without them? I cost the Company $98,000 in pay and benefits last year.

I’m sure they love paying that in my name.

 

[WeAAsles]

Weez more was taken from me under the IAM contract thats all I can say

So just say it Al. You wish you had no Union and no contract and would be much happier with the Company having all the control.

Why can’t you just say that?

 

[Kev3188]

He is; he’s just using different words.

 

[WeAAsles]

He is; he’s just using different words.

I just can’t stand that people don’t just talk straight in this World. Always got to beat around the damn bush.

 

[737823]

Never ONCE in clear violation of any active scope agreements Sir. Only through the language allowing them to be, voluntary concessions or Bankruptcy Judges gavels where all creditors took baths as well.

AA was the only one attain through the bankruptcy process.

UA outside of BK when the company was posting modest profit amidst a rising tide in the industry

US: 2008 agreement abandoned small stations; in 2011 US contracted out BUF before the CBA became amendable 11/2011

Josh

 

[737823]

And Weez the AMR creditors made out quite well. They even returned equity to shareholders which is virtually unheard of (as they’re almost always wiped out) but they got residual claims.

Josh