JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet. **New and improved 2.0 version**

[WeAAsles]

Since you’re interested in facts maybe you should recognize the fact that the membership clearly doesn’t want you and your group this has been proven time again. There may need to be change in leadership at the top but the members Clearly don’t think you’re it.
Now quit wasting the DOL and the rest us time.

Now if you really want to have fun, use your flight benefits to fly down to Clt and refer to me as an idiot or a moron to my face

He doesn’t have the guts. That’s why he ran away from CLT in the first place.

And you shouldn’t sweat him anyway. I think he’s completely lost it finally for real this time. He’s like a raving fruitcake kook.

Let’s try to stay on topic and never mind the fly harassing all of us at the picnic table.

 

[PIEDMONT784]

Since you’re interested in facts maybe you should recognize the fact that the membership clearly doesn’t want you and your group this has been proven time again. There may need to be change in leadership at the top but the members Clearly don’t think you’re it.
Now quit wasting the DOL and the rest us time.

Now if you really want to have fun, use your flight benefits to fly down to Clt and refer to me as an idiot or a moron to my face

Maybe he'll bring the Bank Teller with him --You'll get two birds...with one stone!

>SPIT<

Sorry Weez... I'll try to stay on topic... I just couldn't resist...

 

[WeAAsles]

Maybe he'll bring the Bank Teller with him --You'll get two birds...with one stone!

>SPIT<

Sorry Weez... I'll try to stay on topic... I just couldn't resist...

It’s ok PIEDMONT. It’s just that he starves to death for that attention and to be fed. Him and all his personalities.

 

[cltrat]

Couldn’t agree more weez I overlooked the first one but he second not so much but yes we are better served to just overlook all pissants

 

[robbedagain]

my own opin on the healthcare it could be between LAA and LUS but devil will be in the details I would like to see the current cities grandfathered in I think one of the bigger questions is what happens to catering in places such as the hubs and bwi I think in cities like bwi its probably a no brainer that it would be gone but who knows.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Since you’re interested in facts maybe you should recognize the fact that the membership clearly doesn’t want you and your group this has been proven time again. There may need to be change in leadership at the top but the members Clearly don’t think you’re it.
Now quit wasting the DOL and the rest us time.

Now if you really want to have fun, use your flight benefits to fly down to Clt and refer to me as an idiot or a moron to my face

Relax and focus on what ypur leader weez is telling you. My only interest in you is that i dont want your vote.
And you remain incredibly ignorant on democracy. You wouldnt know what a fair election is and you havent the slightest idea of how elections and democracy help a union by keeping things accountable.
As for your willingness to toss your health care away and to give up more pension, well, that sorta speaks for itself, doesnt it?

 

[john john]

my own opin on the healthcare it could be between LAA and LUS but devil will be in the details I would like to see the current cities grandfathered in I think one of the bigger questions is what happens to catering in places such as the hubs and bwi I think in cities like bwi its probably a no brainer that it would be gone but who knows.

CWA/IBT grandfathering just allowed outsource replacements thru attrition resulting in problems

 

[737823]

Regarding the United agreement, it really didnt matter what i said as the members honestly just wanted the bonus and cash. I made it clear to them that Mr Klemm was a liar, lying about United ground, full time commitment, unlimited pt, and loa9 when all jobs are gone.

Many on this page are complete idiots and will believe convenient lies by mr baskett. Lus health is gone. They will also gladly give up health care and pension again. Just idiots.
Even when i used to point out the facts, they got even more angry at me as they choose rather to walk off a cliff. I lose nothing either way. I will not be wasting my time putting out organized explanations of the entire jcba, just a focus solely on the iamnpf
The company can give a bonus, plus 6% raise and remove pt caps with a "fake full time commitment letter" and lose lus health care and even claim it wasnt a concession like at United....and the jcba will pass by 95%.

Question for you Tim...not saying I disagree with you but I don’t think UGE came about until mid-late 2015.

http://newsroom.united.com/2015-08-...United-Ground-Express-Ground-Handling-Service

Or are you referring to the early opener contract modifications Oscar precipitated in early 2016?

Wasn’t T/A 1 resoundingly shot down in March 2013, and T/A 2 was ratified in early November 2013 (around the very same day the DOJ suit stopping AA/US got settled).

Granted people within UA may have seen consultants wandering around the property or gotten other intel about UGE starting up but if my memory is correct UGE wasn’t established until 2015. When did it get voluntary recognition with the IAM?

Josh

 

[WeAAsles]

Relax and focus on what ypur leader weez is telling you. My only interest in you is that i dont want your vote.
And you remain incredibly ignorant on democracy. You wouldnt know what a fair election is and you havent the slightest idea of how elections and democracy help a union by keeping things accountable.
As for your willingness to toss your health care away and to give up more pension, well, that sorta speaks for itself, doesnt it?

Yes Tim I truly am a great leader. They call me

“The Weez”

 

[cltrat]

Tim you kind of remind me of Hillary Clinton always making an excuse as to why you lose.She lost to someone any decent candidate probably could have beat,but she was a bad candidate with issues with the truth .Look in the mirror you’re simply not the person people want for change even of there needs to be some.
You can file with ever little thing you want but it,s never going to change that simple fact,you’re not who the members want simple as that.That will never ever change you can waste as much as those members you claim to care about dues money as you want but you’ll never be more than a guy getting trounced while wasting our money on another useless, election.No different than those guys you hate buying expensive booze on our dime or you buying hookers on it.


Btw folks last ballot he was on in Clt the numbers were something like 650 to 20 I think you’re going to need to care about a lot of votes here

 

[Tim Nelson]

Question for you Tim...not saying I disagree with you but I don’t think UGE came about until mid-late 2015.

http://newsroom.united.com/2015-08-...United-Ground-Express-Ground-Handling-Service

Or are you referring to the early opener contract modifications Oscar precipitated in early 2016?

Wasn’t T/A 1 resoundingly shot down in March 2013, and T/A 2 was ratified in early November 2013 (around the very same day the DOJ suit stopping AA/US got settled).

Granted people within UA may have seen consultants wandering around the property or gotten other intel about UGE starting up but if my memory is correct UGE wasn’t established until 2015. When did it get voluntary recognition with the IAM?

Josh

The iam contract was signed early 2016. Klemm told members that the iam had no interest in representing UG and that UGE would never do the work coughed up by klemm. Fast frwd 2 years and the iam now has 1,700 uGe members due to a voluntary recpgnition deal where the company signed a brand new contract first then voluntarily recognized the iam. There are 15 additional stations in the LOA of the uge contract that explicitly hands over previous iam work to uge. For instance mci ramp, etc.the iam members who got the boot can be hired ahead of peeps on the street.
The iam is corrupt. Plus all united work is toast after 2024. Even all hub work. Loa#9 see alaska air

 

[WeAAsles]

About Ultimate Green Energy (uge)
Ultimate Green Energy (UGE) is a premier supplier and installer of domestic solar photovoltaic (Solar PV) energy systems to clients throughout the Northwest of England. The company, which is based in Kirkham (Preston), was established in 2011 and has the parent company has over 25 years of experience in the Energy Suppliers and mechanical and engineering services sector.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Most on this thread are members with seniority and just want the cash. Like weez, he really isnt a union guy. Nice guy but just after the cash.

 

[B737 driver]

Most on this thread are members with seniority and just want the cash. Like weez, he really isnt a union guy. Nice guy but just after the cash.

Let's face it, when people get towards the end of their careers most people take the money and run, it doesn't matter what union you belong to.

 

[WeAAsles]

Most on this thread are members with seniority and just want the cash. Like weez, he really isnt a union guy. Nice guy but just after the cash.

Hey I’m not the maniac who ran for a job clearly and completely out of his league that paid over $300,000 there Buddy.

That would be you Babu.