JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet. **New and improved 2.0 version**

[WeAAsles]

You would think the pissants would have the decency to go and discuss in a forum where there may be people directly affected by something

They just want to sell some kind of fear package that if we’re not careful we’ll all be replaced. Even through our Bankruptcy at AA we kept language that protected our work. TWU has represented AA Ramp since 1947 and had the time to build up language that was impossible to chip away to a degree of complete scorched Earth.

Sure we lost work. And so did everyone else in this industry. But again we’re OUT of those times and I have not even an ounce of a concessionary mindset anymore.

 

[WeAAsles]

Obviously in a hub you’re less vulnerable but don’t you think the people in SAT, SJU and STL who will be without scope in six months are concerned about a UGE type outfit coming in and taking over?

Tim

NO. Not at all. Zip, Zilch, Uh Uh, In no way shape or form concerned or nervous at all period.

Because those Stations and any others WILL NOT be closing.

I already covered this before recently in case you don’t recall.

 

[737823]

NO. Not at all. Zip, Zilch, Uh Uh, In no way shape or form concerned or nervous at all period.

Because those Stations and any others WILL NOT be closing.

I already covered this before recently in case you don’t recall.

Get ready for more LLCers at MIA

Unlike the pilots they will be at the back of the bus, there are LLCer 777 FOs today, and the nAAtive 767 guys the lucky LLCers displaced are still upset over it.

Josh

 

[WeAAsles]

Get ready for more LLCers at MIA

Unlike the pilots they will be at the back of the bus, there are LLCer 777 FOs today, and the nAAtive 767 guys the lucky LLCers displaced are still upset over it.

Josh

They’re not LLC’s, A Hole. They’re my Brothers and Sisters. And ain’t NOTHING happening to STL at all.

BTW of course you’re Timmy cause you’re both repetitive fruitcakes.

 

[737823]

And ain’t NOTHING happening to STL at all

https://www.dallasnews.com/business...ines-close-st-louis-pilot-base-september-2018

Slated to close just in time for the Cinderella date.

Josh

 

[Tim Nelson]

https://www.dallasnews.com/business...ines-close-st-louis-pilot-base-september-2018

Slated to close just in time for the Cinderella date.

Josh

Josh
These guys are full blown. Unintelligents.

 

[WeAAsles]

https://www.dallasnews.com/business...ines-close-st-louis-pilot-base-september-2018

Slated to close just in time for the Cinderella date.

Josh

I’m not a Pilot. Go over to there thread and see if they want to entertain you.

Ramp will remain TWU staffed.

 

[WeAAsles]

Josh
These guys are full blown. Unintelligents.

Actually Tim I have to be honest now. You and I have had a few phone conversations now and frankly I think you might be one of the stupidest people I’ve ever spoken to who thinks he knows things.

I mean seriously you’re a mind blowing ignoramous. It’s always like talking with a 12 year old how dopey you are.

I mean you never even noticed I have to slow down to try to get through to you. Fruitless. So sad.

 

[737823]

Ramp will remain TWU staffed.

...perhaps by Envoy

Josh

 

[737823]

Josh
These guys are full blown. Unintelligents.

The pilot CBA is more restrictive and they need to get them domiciled wherever their seniority can hold now that the TWA fence is finally coming down.

If on 9/12/18 the company wants to contract out STL they will be able to do so subject to the CBA and current flight activity.

Weez used the uncovered sCO PCE work as justification for the IAM rushing into a joint agreement at UA, yet here he insists the company will be benevolent and not contract out five (5) of 17 stations below the CBA scope.

Josh

 

[swamt]

So will the guy your chatting with driver. Don’t let him kid ya.

You better not be referring to me with your "other guy" comment. I would never sell out the group for my own interest. And BTW, neither is our current mechanics that are so wanting to retire after new contract is done, they too are holding and waiting for the correct contract in order to file their paperwork. They are not the sellouts as you are suggesting here at SWA. Weez, watch for the retirements at SWA after new contract is reached. I predict 25 plus just in Dallas. We will see soon I hope...

 

[WeAAsles]

You better not be referring to me with your "other guy" comment. I would never sell out the group for my own interest. And BTW, neither is our current mechanics that are so wanting to retire after new contract is done, they too are holding and waiting for the correct contract in order to file their paperwork. They are not the sellouts as you are suggesting here at SWA. Weez, watch for the retirements at SWA after new contract is reached. I predict 25 plus just in Dallas. We will see soon I hope...

Chill out swamt. You’re getting a little paranoid on me here.

The reference was to Nelson, not you.

 

[robbedagain]

john john did the CWA keep the cities that was prior to this agreement? If so I can only think that may be the Assoc will also grandfather in all current cities? WeAA did AA ramp stay mainline even after they chopped it up like US did to PIT

 

[WeAAsles]

The pilot CBA is more restrictive and they need to get them domiciled wherever their seniority can hold now that the TWA fence is finally coming down.

If on 9/12/18 the company wants to contract out STL they will be able to do so subject to the CBA and current flight activity.

Weez used the uncovered sCO PCE work as justification for the IAM rushing into a joint agreement at UA, yet here he insists the company will be benevolent and not contract out five (5) of 17 stations below the CBA scope.

Josh

Well if you’re not Tim I have to wonder if you masterbate each other when I pay attention to you? You guys seriously get off on me paying attention to you.

Go back and I already stated why nope no stations will be closing to “mainline” TWU Ramp.

Now if you’re Management or a F&H Lacky as I’ve also suspected (Tim’s friends) closing the Pilots base in September is a nice little try at fear factoring the JCBA talks I would suppose. Yea I ain’t buying and the rest of the guys aren’t either.

Nice try though. Next?

 

[WeAAsles]

john john did the CWA keep the cities that was prior to this agreement? If so I can only think that may be the Assoc will also grandfather in all current cities? WeAA did AA ramp stay mainline even after they chopped it up like US did to PIT

Which cities robbed? No we lost a few cities at the hand of that BK gun.

Again most of if not all I suspect will be reopen at a point in time after the JCBA is implemented.

I suspect AA will have one year would be my guess?