"Schools" understand the meaning and put them in their motto's....
[background=rgb(249, 249, 249)]"Lux et veritas" - yale[/background]
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Is USAirways hostile takeover Of AA for Real?
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Then they are doing a disservice to the School by letting their name be asociated with Swelbar. He is nothing more than a shill for AirCon.
Neither Harvard or Yale have any association with Swelbar that I know of. MIT is a different story but even there he is at arms length.
Veritas simply means truth. I have on previous occasions challenged the integrity of his blog in terms of his financial reporting as a self proclaimed leading industry airline research analyst at MIT.
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Hey Bluebie,
I think he's one of the best in the industry. Helped us tremedously in our negotiations and getting our contract language sections cost-out.
Your jealous.
H's intelligent and knows the history better than most. You appear to be fearful..trying to discredit by bringing up irrelevant information as a distraction from the real issues that are being presented.
He has the sincereity, integrity to talk about issues in our industry that either no one knows enough about, or choose not to talk about. He appears to really be extremely neutral on the issue of USAirways and AA. Has no dog in the fight...he's just stating the issues that no one is focusing on.
I am sure USAriways managment doesn't want it out there while they are doing their campaigning and courtship.
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What your take on this Kirby interview at a recent conference??????
USAirways using AMR as a strategy on their own integration issue.
Sounds like AA labor is being used. A means to and end that suits USAirways, don't you think?
What's in it for AA Labor????
What your take on this Kirby interview at a recent conference??????
USAirways using AMR as a strategy on their own integration issue.
Sounds like AA labor is being used. A means to and end that suits USAirways, don't you think?
What's in it for AA Labor????
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So why is he now a consultant for AA if he is on labors side? I think that he nay be on $$$$$$$'s side, and whomever is throwing it at him. Now that you are in his corner, I can't help but to wonder what your agenda is. It is evident that you are trying to save AFA some dues paying membership that runs the risk of bring lost to AA's union.
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On the other end, the labor can be using US as a negotiation leverage.
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Absolutely nothing.
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One step closer...
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/excusive-us-air-plans-antitrust-204808073.html
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/excusive-us-air-plans-antitrust-204808073.html
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Seems to be a bit odd doing an anti-trust review without having done due dilligence... How exactly can DOJ rule without AA actively participating in the review?
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Just curious, does the airline in BK have a choice?
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After reading the article, it does say that US hopes to do it with the consent of AMR. If having this done in advance will help to move things along quickly in favor of US, its a smart move. While some disagree, I still think that the slot swap with DL was paving the way to get this deal done. I realize that some DCA stuff may have to go, but in the end the combined carriers will still be near or at the top in DCA & LGA.
AA-US will have nowhere near as many LGA slots as DL, which now has about half the LGA slots. AA and US will have thirty-some percent of the LGA slots, far behind Delta. Had Dunce Parker not given away the vast majority of US' LGA slots for just over three dozen DCA slots, a merger of US and AA would have meant that US-AA would own LGA the way DL now does. As for DCA, the combined US (pre-slot swap) and AA DCA slots would have resulted in almost as much market concentration as US now enjoys at DCA.
Spin it any way you want, but Parker gave DL a huge gift in NYC that the combined US-DL will regret going forward.
Parker is such an amazing executive but he was unable (unwilling?) to compete in NYC. And once he's in charge of AA, that will magically change and US-AA will be willing and able to compete in NYC?
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wings396, on 12 June 2012 - 06:47 PM, said:
After reading the article, it does say that US hopes to do it with the consent of AMR. If having this done in advance will help to move things along quickly in favor of US, its a smart move. While some disagree, I still think that the slot swap with DL was paving the way to get this deal done. I realize that some DCA stuff may have to go, but in the end the combined carriers will still be near or at the top in DCA & LGA.
AA-US will have nowhere near as many LGA slots as DL, which now has about half the LGA slots. AA and US will have thirty-some percent of the LGA slots, far behind Delta. Had Dunce Parker not given away the vast majority of US' LGA slots for just over three dozen DCA slots, a merger of US and AA would have meant that US-AA would own LGA the way DL now does. As for DCA, the combined US (pre-slot swap) and AA DCA slots would have resulted in almost as much market concentration as US now enjoys at DCA.
Spin it any way you want, but Parker gave DL a huge gift in NYC that the combined US-DL will regret going forward.
Parker is such an amazing executive but he was unable (unwilling?) to compete in NYC. And once he's in charge of AA, that will magically change and US-AA will be willing and able to compete in NYC?
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NONSENSE, if anything the DCA/LGA slot transfer confirmed that US is not fooling around. They are serious about moving the process of consolidation forward...in other words..practicing what they preach. Delta has benefitted greatly at the same time US has set the stage for deal making moves that futher advance managements motives. It has yet to be proven that this move wasn't brilliant. It remains to be seen if regulators will punish US because of this very smart move which Delta whole heartedly went along with. The more I read this thread, the more I have to admit there are some pretty stupid people posting on here...and it has nothing to do with my point of view. I have never seen a more ignorant brand of high class postulates.
wings396, on 12 June 2012 - 06:47 PM, said:After reading the article, it does say that US hopes to do it with the consent of AMR. If having this done in advance will help to move things along quickly in favor of US, its a smart move. While some disagree, I still think that the slot swap with DL was paving the way to get this deal done. I realize that some DCA stuff may have to go, but in the end the combined carriers will still be near or at the top in DCA & LGA.
AA-US will have nowhere near as many LGA slots as DL, which now has about half the LGA slots. AA and US will have thirty-some percent of the LGA slots, far behind Delta. Had Dunce Parker not given away the vast majority of US' LGA slots for just over three dozen DCA slots, a merger of US and AA would have meant that US-AA would own LGA the way DL now does. As for DCA, the combined US (pre-slot swap) and AA DCA slots would have resulted in almost as much market concentration as US now enjoys at DCA.
Spin it any way you want, but Parker gave DL a huge gift in NYC that the combined US-DL will regret going forward.
Parker is such an amazing executive but he was unable (unwilling?) to compete in NYC. And once he's in charge of AA, that will magically change and US-AA will be willing and able to compete in NYC?
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NONSENSE, if anything the DCA/LGA slot transfer confirmed that US is not fooling around. They are serious about moving the process of consolidation forward...in other words..practicing what they preach. Delta has benefitted greatly at the same time US has set the stage for deal making moves that futher advance managements motives. It has yet to be proven that this move wasn't brilliant. It remains to be seen if regulators will punish US because of this very smart move which Delta whole heartedly went along with. The more I read this thread, the more I have to admit there are some pretty stupid people posting on here...and it has nothing to do with my point of view. I have never seen a more ignorant brand of high class postulates.
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And while I'm at it where does Pit Bull get off? I mean really, if she is that concerned with the plight of the poor working stiffs at US, then why in the hell did she QUIT? I have been working under the sorry a## contract that she help set in place for years. And I for one am in no mood for someone from the tragic past of failures to step up now and say anything about the current state of affairs. And I as union paying AFA zombie take offense at this so called savior of our current situation. Save it honey for tales from the rocking chair at your HMO funded old age home. And while your at it, get rid of the Stupid A## warrior motifs, they are as dated as your take on the current affairs. This is not war this is business.
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