Is USAirways hostile takeover Of AA for Real?

[signals]

Hey moron...did you ever accuse Parker of furloughing as a negotiating tactic?

The above post is as demented as a certain then usapa vp showing his ignorance at a crew news session.

I mean really? Parker and the LCC management is using the pretense of a merger with AMR as a tactic to get a bunch of reneging malcontents force fed the binding arbitration??

LMAO at your ignorant post and your pseudo-union mindframe.

Getting kicked in the pilots forum since Pinky and The Brain have been sent to the cornfield, huh?

 

[nic4us]

Yes he would, if it was the only way to complete a full merger of America West. Have you got any other ideas that could be used? If you were CEO, what creative leverage would you use????

Okay..so you are not Cleary.

The merger of AWA/US is complete, has been for years. Not only is it complete, but it turned out better for management than they could have expected, here is why.

They have two of their largest, most expensive employee groups locked on bankruptcy contracts, and, get this, because the employee groups themselves have opted to stay on those contracts.

The idea that LCC went to the AMR employee groups making offers in a legitimate merger attempt, just to get the LCC pilots combined under the Nicolau award to complete an already done AWA/US deal is ludicrous.

Now I was unfamiliar with your history, and thought you sounded just like Cleary, apparently you are not him, and you have 700uw's respect as a union leader so, my apologies if you were offended, it was a condescending post. However, the most important thing for LCC employees right now would be to understand the position we are in and work within that frame of reference to better our condition. Thinking the company (LCC) would make a run at AMR to wrap up pilot seniority is absolutely not the position we are in. The company could not care less if the pilots stay on the current separate ops contracts indefinitely.

 

[nic4us]

Getting kicked in the pilots forum since Pinky and The Brain have been sent to the cornfield, huh?

Yeah...that is it...I can't hold my own against the deranged posters over there that think Franke is involved, or the 9th greenlighted a means for unions to renege on binding arbitration and failures of duty of fair representation.

 

[signals]

Well all righty then!

 

[700UW]

Whatever.. I am not diminishing the fact that she helped in our FA negotiations back when but she's talking nonsense about this merger and you know it . She lost all credibility with me .

Still not very mature and you didnt answer why you have to insult in her?

That serves no purpose, everyone is entitled to their opinion, and her knowledge is quite more extensive than yours.

 

[700UW]

Okay..so you are not Cleary.

The merger of AWA/US is complete, has been for years. Not only is it complete, but it turned out better for management than they could have expected, here is why.

They have two of their largest, most expensive employee groups locked on bankruptcy contracts, and, get this, because the employee groups themselves have opted to stay on those contracts.

The idea that LCC went to the AMR employee groups making offers in a legitimate merger attempt, just to get the LCC pilots combined under the Nicolau award to complete an already done AWA/US deal is ludicrous.

Now I was unfamiliar with your history, and thought you sounded just like Cleary, apparently you are not him, and you have 700uw's respect as a union leader so, my apologies if you were offended, it was a condescending post. However, the most important thing for LCC employees right now would be to understand the position we are in and work within that frame of reference to better our condition. Thinking the company (LCC) would make a run at AMR to wrap up pilot seniority is absolutely not the position we are in. The company could not care less if the pilots stay on the current separate ops contracts indefinitely.

The merger is not complete, where have you been?

A complete merger there would be one pilot group, not east and west, there would be one flight attendant group, not east and west and their would be one fleet, not east metal and west metal.

Try again.

 

[etops1]

The merger is not complete, where have you been?

A complete merger there would be one pilot group, not east and west, there would be one flight attendant group, not east and west and their would be one fleet, not east metal and west metal.

Try again.

And who's fault is that ?

 

[700UW]

All the parties involved, the Pilots, east and west, the company and the company in regard to the FAs.

You know this.

 

[BlueStar]

She's an idiot who is pissed because Jerry Glass didn't give her any play . Pay no mind to her ..

Hey idiot, I didn't get removed from any position. There was no buyout or deal negotiated as you proport.

I am still involved with AFA and the leadership, and the f/as.

Nice try, take your blathering and stick it up AA's azzes.
your still a snake trying to convince the f/as at AA to trust USAirways managment, just like you did with us.

You will lose.

Come from behind your curtain, newbie coward.

Etops, you have no idea, and why do you have to insult her?

She was the only labor leader who Glass feared, and if it wasnt for her, Perry Hayes would have sold you down the river.

I was at ccy for the IAM and I witnessed what was going on.

You lose any credibility when you insult someone in your post.

I'm not taking sides here I'm just wondering where we draw the line on insults.

Note: Pitbull's post precedes etops. <check time stamp>

With all due respect 700UW.

- Newbie

 

[700UW]

I didnt insult him, he has insulted her in several posts on AA and US boards.

 

[BlueStar]

I didnt insult him, he has insulted her in several posts on AA and US boards.

I have never seen you insult anyone 700UW which I why I said with all due respect.

Not taking sides on this, just my sideline opinion.

With all due respect.

- Newbie

 

[Bob Owens]

Amazing how they got us to eliminate much of the relocation protection language with a gun to our head during the bankruptcy restructuring,

As an AA employee you would be justified in saying that I shouldnt talk but , you should have told them to "pull it".

 

[PITbull]

As an AA employee you would be justified in saying that I shouldnt talk but , you should have told them to "pull it".

I did. Told the US Airways f/a leadership to make sure the scope stays, and the "me too".

 

[PITbull]

"Wm. David Gahr, an American Airlines flight attendant who lives in Hollywood, Fla., seethed when he read about last week's meeting of the Star-Telegram Editorial Board, the CEO of US Airways and top officials of American's three largest unions."

Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/06/28/4067268/seniority-is-always-an-issue-in.html#storylink=cpy

 

[frontline]

In my opinion the wheels have come off the merger bus. I don't think US has the support or finances to make it happen.

It's a classic "tried to bite off more than he could chew" situation.