Industrial vs. Craft

[Raptorman49]

Thanks for the help RaptorSpam! The guy in the video might as well be Jim Little!

Funny you should mention that cause there cousins, wow you are soooo good to notice that.
Actually he's a highly skilled very Intelligent & well paid PILOT, your never gonna make as much money as Him Odie B)

 

[odie01]

Whats comical is supporting a union like the teamsters that is a mirror immage of the twu! Give it up RaptorSpam!

 

[AC Tynker]

You guys and your personal lives need to be mvoed the the "water cooler" forum.
We are discussing AA Mechanic unionism here. If you cannot be involved in the threads topic then leave and go elsewhere. In other words if you have no interest in debating and learning the facts about the unions, then pack your bags and go elsewhere. That is what many of these threads are about, not your personal pud pounding weak and miserable lives.

Over on the "Water Cooler Forum" you can discuss Amateur Radio, Exotic birds, Computers, Electronics, High tech gadgets etc. etc.

This Forum is about American Airlines issues, and this thread is about Unionism. If you don't like it, have no interest, or cannot contribute to the topic then LEAVE! Or I will request moderator involvement and enforcement of forums rules and you will end up bannished.

I have re-read the rules and have not found anything reguarding "If TWU Informer gets flustered because you try to explain other peoples views on the subject in which he goes on and on about thinking of his view only, then it results in auto bannish" < lol it is ban. Maybe you should report me because I am confused and really do not like breaking board rules.

 

[TWU informer]

I have re-read the rules and have not found anything reguarding "If TWU Informer gets flustered because you try to explain other peoples views on the subject in which he goes on and on about thinking of his view only, then it results in auto bannish" < lol it is ban. Maybe you should report me because I am confused and really do not like breaking board rules.

To be honest I am here to discuss American Airlines and Union Matters, your inability to stay on topic or your personal confused state of mind, or even your computer skills are of no interest to me.
You have admitted you have no comment on representational issues. All you have done since arriving is attempt to be a wannabe moderator or the moral police of airline forums.

I don't have time for that and you are now on ignore.

Good luck finding a new job.

 

[Raptorman49]

I have re-read the rules and have not found anything reguarding "If TWU Informer gets flustered because you try to explain other peoples views on the subject in which he goes on and on about thinking of his view only, then it results in auto bannish" < lol it is ban. Maybe you should report me because I am confused and really do not like breaking board rules.

Hugh I missed that entire post you quoted somehow, to bad I could have had some fun with that one.

 

[OldGuy@AA]

I have re-read the rules and have not found anything reguarding "If TWU Informer gets flustered because you try to explain other peoples views on the subject in which he goes on and on about thinking of his view only, then it results in auto bannish" < lol it is ban. Maybe you should report me because I am confused and really do not like breaking board rules.

The heading of this forum is "American Airlines" after all and the topic is "Industrial vs Craft". We are in a struggle for our careers and we would all appreciate if you either stuck to the topic or went elsewhere. Excuse us if we are a little short tempered.

 

[Raptorman49]

To be honest I am here to discuss American Airlines and Union Matters, your inability to stay on topic or your personal confused state of mind, or even your computer skills are of no interest to me.
Yo have admitted you have no comment on representational issues. All you have done since arriving is attempt to be a moderator or the moral police. I don't have time for that you are now on ignore. Good luck finding a new job.

Your constantly deviating from the topic to focus on an Individual, these threads should never be about individual but instead idea's but your the one who couldn't stay on topic when I first got here & constantly focused on me, your buddies can't stay on topic either & are always making these threads about Individuals, yes were the civil police because their are some real problem children on this forum that need lots of moderation to stay on topic & off of Individuals that nobody knows or even cares about.

 

[odie01]

Your a funny guy RaptorSpam!

 

[TWU informer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZbUblVPW5Ig

 

[Raptorman49]

The heading of this forum is "American Airlines" after all and the topic is "Industrial vs Craft". We are in a struggle for our careers and we would all appreciate if you either stuck to the topic or went elsewhere. Excuse us if we are a little short tempered.

That's not a problem Tom but remember to remind the AMFA boys when one of them starts getting personal & Berating a poster from behind an Alias & a keyboard that is how all this trouble got started in the first place it wasn't me or AC Tynker that started it, I am very tolerant of others viewpoints.

 

[OldGuy@AA]

Your right Odie you have it all figured out ....... your so smart, WHEN they actually do file if they get enough cards will you publicly admit you were wrong once again ???
If AMFA gets enough cards I will admit I was wrong about them not being able to get enough .... is it a deal ? B)
You have no clue what's going on you just like inventing conspiracies, are aliens really abducting us & experimenting on us ?? I bet you could write a book on conspiracies but i'm not into conspiracies nor am I paranoid. B)
By the way thousands of people have signed cards many of them AMFA supporters so I guess were all wrong & your right .... LOL From what I've seen so far the Teamster drive is more real than the AMFA drive, maybe their both fake & it's all a big scam to divert our attention from the TA vote .... the conspiracies go on and on, oh by the way the Teamster drive at United was fake as well as was the one at Horizon but the Teamsters are representing both those airlines anyway, those fake drives work sometimes hugh ?? B)

Besides if it's fake then stop worrying about it & just ignore it, they don't want your card anyway they told me so.

One thing to think about Dan. If indeed the Teamsters do actually mount a for real drive and they do indeed become the barganing unit for the mechanics and related, how long before drives start to organize fleet and stores and then we are back in the same boat again? You must understand that the reason we are in this whole mess is that the TWU refuses to get the mechs a raise or anything else unless the other groups get the same raise. Funny how they are so quick to hand away our benefits though. Sorry, but I am of the thinking that a group of skilled workers should have at least the same benefits as the unskilled, but the TWU doesn't think so. Our international is controlled by bus drivers, do you want an international controlled by truck drivers and the mob? Just stop and think if this is really a good idea. We need to be away from fleet and stores or we will never make a decent wage or get any benefits back. I am not here to say that they don't need to make a living because they do, but it was explained to me years ago that we are expected to like the "Plunger effect" where our pay goes up very little while those other groups' go up more. The TWU and Teamsters want everyone, no matter what job you do, to make the same money. This is not right or fair.

 

[TWU informer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZbUblVPW5Ig

 

[TWU informer]

Information

http://www.amfa-aa.com

 

[Raptorman49]

One thing to think about Dan. If indeed the Teamsters do actually mount a for real drive and they do indeed become the barganing unit for the mechanics and related, how long before drives start to organize fleet and stores and then we are back in the same boat again? You must understand that the reason we are in this whole mess is that the TWU refuses to get the mechs a raise or anything else unless the other groups get the same raise. Funny how they are so quick to hand away our benefits though. Sorry, but I am of the thinking that a group of skilled workers should have at least the same benefits as the unskilled, but the TWU doesn't think so. Our international is controlled by bus drivers, do you want an international controlled by truck drivers and the mob? Just stop and think if this is really a good idea. We need to be away from fleet and stores or we will never make a decent wage or get any benefits back. I am not here to say that they don't need to make a living because they do, but it was explained to me years ago that we are expected to like the "Plunger effect" where our pay goes up very little while those other groups' go up more. The TWU and Teamsters want everyone, no matter what job you do, to make the same money. This is not right or fair.

I agree Tom but the problem is I honestly don't thing that AMFA will get enough cards to file even if the Teamsters weren't having a drive & splitting the cards but the fact that they are here & splitting the cards makes it even more impossible to get enough cards, that's why I'm not taking these card drives seriously, If either has any chance at all of getting enough cards with this three way race it will be the Teamsters with all of their Organizing resources, they do run an Impeccable drive & seem to know exactly what their doing, I''m doubtful that even they can get enough cards but i'm sure with their resources they will get a lot more cards than AMFA.
Unless your planning on working your ass off everyday on your lunch & your breaks & spending a lot of your money trying to get cards & you can find a whole lot more extremely motivated people to do all that as well then this drive doesn't have a chance of getting the cards, I would love to be wrong but I've learned from being a Day trader in the market to bet with the odds not against the odds.

 

[Raptorman49]

How many times are you going to post that video Dave ??? Once isn't enough ??
We get it you want us to watch it & we watched it ..... OK