Ideas on what we can do to cut costs at US airways …or generate revenue 2

[REACC1]

Without passes, what's the point? It is not so much the pay, what the He## is it to you????
Just curious.

 

[freedom]

Without passes, what's the point? It is not so much the pay, what the He## is it to you????
Just curious.

That’s not an effective critique nor an idea ..

I don’t need a thread where people whine … if you can come up with a better idea to save (or make )our company money DO IT … I’m not fired up to defend my idea , I figured i might as well get the 800 pound gorilla out of the cage first and go from there .. NOW THINK …

 

[REACC1]

Ok, I know you are in management now!!!

On the other hand, every seat, or nearly every seat is filled,...that's great!!
However, the price for every seat is based on the internet, mostly, and has no bearing on the "real" world. The price to transport an individual for a profit. Why?

 

[freedom]

Ok, I know you are in management now!!!

My patience is thin ….

Look at this message board , look at the general tone of the topics … oil is single handily killing our industry …. Go and stick your head in the sand! And when you lose your job or get your bennies cut , don’t CRY to the rest of us on aviation ..

I often wondered if this message board could be a danger to our company by exposing inside info … but now I think it’s a double edged sword … with posts like LD3 we can find waste and cut it off …

For once in your life be proactive rather than just sitting on here and complaining , I mean this IS your livelihood after all is it not? ( I know it’s mine ) geez man , DO something , don’t just wait for the bus to roll over you …

I’m done for the day .

 

[bagchucker]

I was prepared for this kind of response , so let me be CLEAR ….

WHATEVER IT TAKES….

There is NO ONE with a gun to your head telling you that you need to take that trip up to LAS for lunch ….

Free flying is a convenience , but if you hadn’t noticed these are inconvenient times .

Do you have a better idea ? Lets hear it , I’m all ears ….

Charging non-revs isn't gonna fix the problem here. Not all employees fly or use their flight bennies. One way (and I am not an advocate of this) is to stop the "triple play" incentive. We have been "hitting" that pretty regularly and most everyone gets the $50. Do the math and you can see how many millions have gone into that program this year alone.

 

[Itestwell]

Listen, freedom, no disrespect, but if you cannot see that charging non revs for travel on top of the merger misery, base closings and multiple paycuts that we have endured since 2001 would actually cost the company more in the way of further declining morale, then I seriously hope you are not in management like some here believe.

Read some of my other posts. I agree 100% that the culprit is fuel this time, not necessarily mgmt. Coming to employees for further concessions (ie non rev benefits) is certainly not the answer.

Just my opinion....

 

[Twicebaked]

dear twice ..

I assumed that most would think it was already implied in such a suggestion of charging for non revs that’s commuters would be exempt … so just to be explicit let me say that “commuters should be exemptâ€￾

That would be an impossible undertaking. People commute from the West coast, Florida, Europe, Carribean. How are you going to prove that you are going to work and not to the Carribean or from Europe for Vacation?

 

[giantfan]

Charging non-revs isn't gonna fix the problem here. Not all employees fly or use their flight bennies. One way (and I am not an advocate of this) is to stop the "triple play" incentive. We have been "hitting" that pretty regularly and most everyone gets the $50. Do the math and you can see how many millions have gone into that program this year alone.

I gotta say, for what it's worth, I am NOT for taking any money away from any employ or charging us to non rev....we don't make enough as it is and non revving is the only reason most of us work in this crappy industry.

Nickel & dime our customers/pax all you want...h$ll...all the other airlines are starting to do it. But let's leave the employees alone...we have already given up too much.

Why don't we look into ways of reducing landing fees and other airport fees that cost us deeply. If the airlines suffer from economic downturns and extravagant oil increases why do the airports continue to keep their fees so ridiculously high...? Don't they need us as much as we need them?

 

[dexter]

How about a 50/50 raffle for those who will be laid off in the north east. Many have been advised their are jobs being cut on the next effective date in June. I believe 18 in Boston and 2 a piece in some of the smaller northeast stations. This is only the beginning folks.

We can leave buckets at each gate area for those who want to contribute. Not the "Salvation Army" it will be called the "Usairways Army" accompanied by an agent in a suit ringing a bell.

- car pools out of the employee lot on each shift.
-free economy parking for passengers and add 2.00 on to their ticket price roundtrip for fuel cost.
-relocating share holders meetings from the Ritz Carlton to HDQ in Tempe.
-getting rid of managements Blackberry phones and replacing them with cheaper devises.

 

[Itestwell]

That would be an impossible undertaking. People commute from the West coast, Florida, Europe, Carribean. Who are you going to prove that you are going to work and not to the Carribean or from Europe for Vacation?

That's it, let's drive another wedge between employees: If you commute, you commute for free...... vacation? You pay, even if you live in base and do not commute...... I can see the upheaval now.....

 

[Twicebaked]

That's it, let's drive another wedge between employees: If you commute, you commute for free...... vacation? You pay, even if you live in base and do not commute...... I can see the upheaval now.....

I am not doing/saying that... Freedom was.

I think it is a dumb idea. It should be for all or none!!!!! But it is dumb all together.

 

[Itestwell]

I am not doing/saying that... Freedom was.

I think it is a dumb idea. It should be for all or none!!!!! But it is dumb all together.

I know who was saying it... :down:

 

[Jester]

I will agree with those who believe management to be unwilling to take employee suggestions. Too often managers figure since they are the ones in charge, they must have all the answers while ignoring that even the most lowly airline workers might possibly have earned graduate degrees and have invaluable practical experience. As a ramp worker, I have personally seen this many times.

Here's a few of my suggestions in how the company could save money around the ramp:

1) Copy what Southwest does in terms of having the GPU cord already disconnected from the cable before the aircraft arrives and plugged into the aircraft before the jet bridge has been ppsitioned so that the GPU can be powered before the engines are shutdown. This would save on fuel and the APU usage. (Now if we could only train the ramp agents to marshall the plane so it does not run over the GPU cord.)

2) Turn off all ground equipment not for immediate use. It is safety issue and a fuel saving issue. I see belt loaders left running for an hour at a time, regardless if bags are being moved. I see t-point runners leaving their tugs running for a couple of minutes while they are pulling and digging through a few carts of bags.

3) Better staffing utilitization. Common sense within management would recognize a problem when an 8-hour fleet service agent handles two turns during the course of their shift. This is not an issue of irregular ops, but rather normal course of business. While it might be tempting to blame the ramper of for being "lazy", the agent cannot work on flights that do not exist. I have seen team leads that are reduced to handling one flight during 8 hours. Sounds like a better use of part-time people would be neccessary. In comparison, Southwest ramp agents will handle between 5 and 7 flights in 8 hours.

4) Better overtime utilization. Allowing agents to pre-AUTO and then offering overtime for those same shifts to other agents at an overtime rate.

So Suggest Jester.

 

[sharktooth]

My patience is thin ….

Look at this message board , look at the general tone of the topics … oil is single handily killing our industry …. Go and stick your head in the sand! And when you lose your job or get your bennies cut , don’t CRY to the rest of us on aviation ..

I often wondered if this message board could be a danger to our company by exposing inside info … but now I think it’s a double edged sword … with posts like LD3 we can find waste and cut it off …

For once in your life be proactive rather than just sitting on here and complaining , I mean this IS your livelihood after all is it not? ( I know it’s mine ) geez man , DO something , don’t just wait for the bus to roll over you …

I’m done for the day .

I am glad you are done, for the day.

You take the least compensated labor group in the industry (US employees) and, manufacturing a crisis, attempt to solicit "ideas" on what the employees can do to "save" the company.

This "management group" works with the cheapest labor costs of any carrier and yet cannot make more money than someone else? Hello! Is it possible for you to think that the problem at US is management? If so, why should we work with incompetence?

Getting the employees to give back more to an, apparently, incompetent management "team", is just asinine.

Let the management "team" try to manage first. Let them do their jobs. If they cannot, then if the employees cannot figure out a way to get better managers, let it fold. As it should. Likely, then, you can get a much better job somewhere else, say, MacDonalds.

 

[sharonstoneseat]

I heard that we are not using this capability on the FMC on the Bus. Why not?

Reading this will keep you busy for awhile..

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/aeromagaz...07_article5.pdf