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[737nCH11]

One more point. Look at the headline titled "Lack of Lease Deal Could Cost USAirways." Chip, do you think that USAirways will be able to reach an agreement with the city of Pittsburgh? If your answer is "yes", then why do you find it so easy for U to reach this agreement while you are so confident that UAL won't be able to reach similar agreements with DEN, ORD, etc. It looks the same to me.



737

 

[Cosmo]

I have had a number of conversations in person, on the phone, and via email with Dave Siegel regarding US Airways business plan. In fact, he has flown on my jump seat three times and we have talked at CCY.

Dave has made this comment on countless occasions and he is a master at using comments to manage expectations. Furthermore, what a better way to disguise your real intentions to your competition than to throw public curve balls? I recently told Dave that he is a master of third-party comments and he laughed and agreed with my comment. Why? Because he knows I can usually figure out when he is manipulating his audience, which could be AGAA, Leo Mullin, or Gordon Bethune.

What a bunch of self-aggrandizing drivel!

And Ukridge has a valid point. Why would Dave Siegel or any other top official at US Airways share this type of data with Chip, especially if it could potentially be construed by the SEC as "insider" information and possibly subject both the provider and the recipient to fines and/or jail time? I'm sure Siegel doesn't want to have his picture on TV doing a "perp walk". The idea that Siegel routinely discusses US Airways' corporate secrets and strategy with Chip just doesn't pass the "smell" test.

So let's see -- do we believe the public comments of the CEO of US Airways or do we believe Chip and his "secret" sources? The answer seems pretty clear to me! JMHO.

 

[737nCH11]

It looks like most of the employees on the USAirways board believe Siegel.

 

[767jetz]

ALPA's fragmentation policy was negotiated around UAL's old low cost carrier plan. Remember that this called for forming a separate company under the UAL umbrella. If this had occurred it would have been easy to sell off the operation at some point in the future. As it stands now, the LCC is so tightly connected to UAL that I consider the fragmentation argument a moot point.

Did you catch that Chip???

737 beat me to the punch. But he (as well as most others) understand that point very clearly. And if I'm not mistaken, he's also a US employee who can see right through you.

Let me also add that in addition to fears about what UA originally had planned for the LCC, ALPA also negotiated most of Contract2003 late last year when things were much less certain than they are now. Haven't you ever heard of covering your a$$ (CYA) just in case?

You really should stop using bad, very old, and outdated information to draw conclusions. Didn't you say yourself that what is true on Monday may not be on Wednesday? You seem to understand the fluid nature of this industry. At least when it suiots your needs. Other times you rigidly hold onto the past. I find that very interesting.

 

[AA191]

Chip,

Do you want non-pilots telling you how to fly an airplane? I thought so, so fly the plane, that is what you are paid for, and you guys do a great job at that, hands down. So, if management needs your help they will ask you. You get paid to fly a plane....Others get paid to run the airline and support YOU in your job.

 

[USA320Pilot]

In my opinion, the crux of this thread is to discredit the messenger or belittle my; US Airways, and its employees, because United posters do not like my comments. To me it's clearly frustration when grown men and women have to "shoot the messenger" because of their inability to handle reality, however, let's set the facts straight, which is something some of the more prolific posters on this board do not do.

The comments listed below, now on the United board, that conform to USaviation’s rules and regulations, are a direct result of Ukridge being sarcastic and a sophist who purposely misrepresented me with a vial attempt to inject humor, which I believe was in poor taste.

Furthermore, some observer’s would like me to reveal my sources, however, when I am told something in confidence I will never disclose their identity and destroy their trust. Thus, when uninformed people try to “shoot the messenger†or post-inaccurate information, I post public comments that support my argument(s).

Siegel regularly talks to employees and I believe he looks at me as a pilot leader. Just because some of our posters do not talk to their CEO, this shouldn't be considered unusual at US Airways.

Zman, I have a copy of both the United and US Airways ALPA contracts and it does not differentiate between the mainline and the LCO, therefore, you are mistaken. The new United pilot contract now uses the same ALPA Merger Policy language, therefore, why did the United pilot group sign a contract that provides successorhip language that includes seniority integration for United to be fragmented?

In regard to Siegel’s comment about the airline viewed as a “super regionalâ€, Siegel is referring to a potential standalone business plan, but this network/fleet plan is not regional in scope and includes:

1. A contractual mainline fleet of 279 aircraft, excluding RJs, per the tables listed below:


Aircraft Type 2003 2011 (theoretical)

A330-300s 9 19
B767s 10 0
B757s 31 0
A321s 28 41
A320s 23 29 (1)
A319s 61 61
B737-400s 47 0
B737-300s 70 0
EMB-190/195s 0 129

Total 279 279

Potential B737 Fleet Replacement:

During the recent Regional Airline Association (RAA) conference in Phoenix, US Airways chief executive officer Dave Siegel said more than 100 US Airways Boeing 737-300/400 aircraft would be nearing the end of their useful life. Siegel noted the EMB-190/195 looks attractive for US Airways’ mainline operation as some of the airline’s older narrowbodies exit the fleet during the next five to 10 years.

Siegel told conference attendees that the company looked at the EMB-190/195 in its long-range plans and the airline is studying whether they can replace aging Boeing 737-300s and -400s on mainline routes.

The EMB-190LR has a maximum takeoff weight of 110,893 pounds, has a range of 2,300 nautical miles, and a dual class configuration of 8 first and 86-coach class seats (96 total) or 98 seats in a single class configuration.

The EMB-195LR has a maximum takeoff weight of 111,973 pounds, has a range of 1,800 nautical miles, and has a dual class configuration of 8 first and 98-coach class seats (106 total) or 116 seats in a single class configuration.

In relation to previous US Airways mainline aircraft, the F100 was configured for 8 first and 91-coach class seats (99 total) and had a maximum takeoff weight of 101,000 pounds, which is similar in scope to the EMB-190 and is smaller/lighter than the EMB-195.

According to Embraer, the commonality between the four aircraft is high: 89% between the Embraer 170/175 and the Embraer 190/195 and 95% between the Embraer 170 and the Embraer 175 as well as between the Embraer 190 and the Embraer 195, which would provide US Airways with additional cost savings.

Siegel said one big advantage of adding the larger Embraer RJs to the mainline fleet would be moving MidAtlantic Airways’ mainline pilots up without a heavy training burden because all four aircraft have a common type rating.

Siegel told Aviation Daily, "It’s premature to say we’re going to pursue that aircraft (EMB-190/195), but it was absolutely something we viewed as attractive and something that went into our calculus".

Potential B767/B757 Fleet Replacement:

US Airways has reached agreement with Airbus Industries for the airline to receive 29 Airbus aircraft in 2007 through 2009. The firm orders are for 10 A330-200s, 13 A321s, and 6 A320s. US Airways could opt to take delivery of these 29 new Airbus aircraft, plus other unspecified aircraft, to replace the aging 41 B767s/B757s before the end of the decade, provided US Airways remains independent and in its current structure.

Note (1) – US Airways and GECAS negotiated for 7 A320 family aircraft to be removed from service that were replaced by B737 aircraft. The A320 family aircraft could be returned to active service in the future.

Note (2) – The Hypothetical Mainline Fleet Plan listed above would leave the carrier with A330s, A320 family, and EMB aircraft, which would provide the company with two aircraft manufactures, both located outside of the U.S.

US Airways expects its mainline ASMs to remain static through 2004, however, RJ ASMs will be dramatically grown. The company’s new MidAtlatnic Airways (MAA) division will have 85 EMB-170/175 jets within 3 years and the network will have about 300 jets total.

According to Aviation Daily, executive vice president of corporate development and express operations Bruce Ashby told Aviation Daily he expects furloughed US Airways pilots to begin Embraer 170 training in July. The Daily reported breakeven load factor for the Embraer 170's flown under the MidAtlantic banner should be about 50%, Ashby said, noting, "We're pretty comfortable with that number."

MAA will represent 23% of the mainline operation -- as a separate division – and will immediately be profitable against low cost carriers. When combined with the mainline, the two divisions will have 364 mainline type jets plus about another 215 RJs deployed into the system.

US Airways can operate up to 465 RJs including MAA, but must maintain a minimum of 279 mainline aircraft.

In regard to the network, during the July 28 analyst conference call Ben Baldanza, senior vice president of marketing and planning said US Airways will end direct service from Pittsburgh to London Gatwick on October 28, however, the company is considering “bringing back the non-stop flights next summer.

Over time, management expects to grow transatlantic operations, principally from Philadelphia, and the Lufthansa agreement should have “greater opportunities due to Philadelphia,†Siegel said.

As RJs arrive the company expects to re-deploy mainline aircraft into long-haul markets. Mainline capacity will remain flat in 2003 and 2004, but there will be some route reallocations with seasonal growth opportunities into the Caribbean, Central America, and Europe.

Best regards,

Chip

 

[LavMan]

A certain captain is grasping at straws in living in his own reality, there won't be a US Airways after October if Dave and his robber barons farmout the airbus narrowbody overhaul.

 

[Busdrvr]

OK, now I'm really confused. in one breath, Chipper insists U will "grab" some 75/76 tails from UAL, and then in another, confirms that U plans to get rid of ALL it's boeing products over the course of the next few years. Yeah Chip. replacing all your Guppies and 757's with EMB and reducing the average size of your fleet (while having no plan for growth) really sends the message that you won't be a "super regional". Please come back to the board and tell us how the Jungle Jet handles.

 

[767jetz]

Chip is always grabbing at straws. He is an unwelcome parasite on this board, and rather than taking responsibility for his actions, he blames his behaviour on Ukridge.

He is single handedly ruining the United Airlines message board, but claims to be innocent, and claims that everyone else has the problem not him. Psychologists have a word for that... denial. He says that UA employees just don't like what he says. This is a true statement. But he fails to realize the reason why. It is not because we feel there is any truth to what he says. We don't like what he says due to the LACK of truth, the LACK of credibility, and his annoying and obsessive manner.

 

[767jetz]

I fail to see how a lengthy post about USAir's fleet plan has any place on this thread or this board. It should be dicussed on the US board for people who care about US.

 

[USA320Pilot]

Lavman, the IAM will likely file a “major disputeâ€￾ resolution with the NMB over US Airways’ plans to outsource Airbus heavy maintenance. This should provide for an expedited hearing schedule with an Arbitrator Opinion & Award provided within 60 days. If the Arbitrator rules in favor of the company, the IAM would not be allowed to have a job action and if the APA – AMR dispute is used as a benchmark, any illegal action could result in legal action against the union and its members. In my opinion, because of the previous Pittsburgh JT8D engine overhaul shutdown, the IAM could lose the Airbus overhaul grievance.

Busdrvr, the US Airways A330, A321, & A320 order will occur between 2007 and 2009 and its to early to tell what the airline could do with its B767/B757 fleet. Those comments were listed as hypothetical and what David Bronner and Dave Siegel decide to do with RSA’s United EETC’s and US Airways’ fleet plan is likely fluid.

767jetz, the reason I posted the US Airways information in this thread was to clear up misconceptions made by other posters.

Best regards,

Chip

 

[767jetz]

In my opinion, the crux of this thread is to discredit the messenger

Finally he gets the point!

Yes we discredit what you say, because we have good reason to. No one believes that anything you say any has credibility, so why shouldn't we respond in this manner?

Do you just expect us to sit by and let you ramble on and then say, "OK Chip, you're right. We believe everything you say." ???

By the way, who appointed you to be the oracle of knowledge and the person to save UA from their denial? Holy selfrighteousness Batman!

You may see yourself as a leader of some type, someone deserving of other people's envy and constant praise and respect. You may think you are part of an exclusive inner circle of special people and deserve special treatment and consideration. But around here you are no one special, just a classic narcissistic personality who can't take a hint.

jetz

 

[Busdrvr]

You may see yourself as a leader of some type, someone deserving of other people's envy and constant praise and respect. You may think you are part of an exclusive inner circle of special people and deserve special treatment and consideration. But around here you are no one special, just a classic narcissistic personality who can't take a hint.

jetz

How DARE you Jetz!!! You can't talk to an evaluater on TWO jets at Navy "test out jets the AF has been flying for years" test school. 🙄

 

[LavMan]

Lavman, the IAM will likely file a “major disputeâ€￾ resolution with the NMB over US Airways’ plans to outsource Airbus heavy maintenance. This should provide for an expedited hearing schedule with an Arbitrator Opinion & Award provided within 60 days. If the Arbitrator rules in favor of the company, the IAM would not be allowed to have a job action and if the APA – AMR dispute is used as a benchmark, any illegal action could result in legal action against the union and its members.

In my opinion, because of the previous Pittsburgh JT8D engine overhaul shutdown, the IAM could lose the grievance.

Busdrvr, the US Airways A330, A321, & A320 order will occur between 2007 and 2009 and its to early to tell what the airline could do with its B767/B757 fleet. Those comments were listed as hypothetical and what David Bronner and Dave Siegel decide to do with RSA’s United EETC’s and US Airways’ fleet plan is likely fluid.

The reason I posted the US Airways information in this thread was to clear up misconceptions made by other posters.

Best regards,

Chip

Chip wrong again, the outsourcing has nothing to do with the NMB.

Fact 1: You go to court to get a TRO(Temporary Restraining Order) and a Prelimanry Injuction.

Fact 2: If the judge rules it a major dispute the IAM is free to use all legal avenues including self-help which we intend to do. (Don't cross my picket line again like you did in 1992 Chip).

Fact 3: If the judge declares it a minor dispute it goes to arbitration, which then we would work exactly to the written rule.

Fact 4: All labor contracts contain the same language they no employee has to cross a picket line, so if we walk so does the ramp, the AFA should back us, ALPA is all ready coperating as is the TWU. So Chip if we walk it will cause the liquidation of this company, guess the two Dave's will lose millions, what a shame.

Fact 5: We have overhauled every airplane type we fly since 1949, there has been no change in the language thru 54 years of history and two rounds of concessions. Our agreement does not say dc-9. md-80, f100, 737-200/300/400, 757, 767 or A330 which we have overhauled and still overhaul.

Fact 6: I can send you the pictures of A/C758 which was in the CLT hangar this week undergoing its several day C-11 check which our own MECHANICS performed.

Fact 7: We have the facilities and the tooling to perform the work, which our stores personel have all the documents and pictures of the tooling to prove it.

Chip the JT8 work was never grieved or arbitrated, we did the work up until we did not fly the JT8s anymore, so try again to come up with something that is truthful and relevant. If you are refering to the CFM56 arbitration, we lost the arbtration because all of the tooling disapeared from the shut down PSA Airmotive engine shop, but we also won if the company shuts down facilities to escape having its own employees do the work, that does not give the company the right to farm out the work. Niether Piedmont nor US Air overhauled the CFM56 and PSA did not even fly that engine type, the Aeromotive (which was a seperate entity did the work at PSA.)

So Chip you can keep partaking in Dave, Dave and Chris' Koolaide, since your have lost all credability on these boards, you were Dave's #1 fan telling ALL employees to accept concessions or quit. You did a total 180 when Dave took your pension, you could not handle when all the posters gave you your own advice and told you if you don't like it quit, you ran away from the boards like a little child who took their ball and stopped playing if they could not win, then after a several month hiatus you come back being Dave's #1 fan again.

So Chip I suggest you polish off your resume, cause we all we be looking for work if Dave vendors out the IAM's Covered WORK!

 

[USA320Pilot]

Lavman:

Per the IAM website, at www.iam141m.org, the IAM will likely seek a number of legal options including a TRO. We previously discussed this on the US Airways board, as you know, but the issue is if the court rules in favor of the company than the airline will continue to operate.

Any illegal action done by union members could result in harsh legal ramifications. Regrdless, in my opinon, this is a US Airways issue and should be discussed on that board.

Best regards,

Chip