IBT No Show Forum

[WNMECH]

Tomorrow is the BIG day. We have 2 737 here in Atl ready to start flying at 6am. Let the new era begin on a good note. Good luck

I'll drink to that. Cheers.

 

[squidly]

I voted yes because I do not buy into all the chest pounding and whining and crying about how AT is getting everything and we're getting nothing. I don't care that they are being handed a big pay raise and other benefits. I do not buy into all the doomsday scenarios about how maintenance could be moved to ATL. I do not think we should block an arbitrator's ruling by never voting in a transition agreement, a yes vote avoids that poorly thought out plan. I voted yes because the low seniority guys will be negatively affected by an arbitrator's ruling, my seniority will not be affected either way. I do not believe AMFA can survive an AMFA on AMFA Seniority integration when the IBT bails out of representing AT, a YES vote avoids that. I voted YES because I do not think AMFA has the resources to deal with the SLI and also Section 6 negotiations for Appearance Techs, Acft Mechanics, Maintenance Controllers, Maintenance Trainers, Facility Maintenance Mechanics, AT Acft Mechanics, AT GSE Mechanics, AT Mx Controllers and AT Instructors all at the same time (not to mention the endless grievances that will be generated when the Company systematically violates our CBA).

i'm telling ya .... YOU ARE management!! I'd vote no just cause the crap your spewing irritates me .... like a MANAGER. a bad manager!

 

[QA4Jet-A]

i'm telling ya .... YOU ARE management!! I'd vote no just cause the crap your spewing irritates me .... like a MANAGER. a bad manager!

Can you explain your reasoning? That might be helpful to understand your statement.

 

[swamt]

I voted yes because I do not buy into all the chest pounding and whining and crying about how AT is getting everything and we're getting nothing. I don't care that they are being handed a big pay raise and other benefits. I do not buy into all the doomsday scenarios about how maintenance could be moved to ATL. I do not think we should block an arbitrator's ruling by never voting in a transition agreement, a yes vote avoids that poorly thought out plan. I voted yes because the low seniority guys will be negatively affected by an arbitrator's ruling, my seniority will not be affected either way. I do not believe AMFA can survive an AMFA on AMFA Seniority integration when the IBT bails out of representing AT, a YES vote avoids that. I voted YES because I do not think AMFA has the resources to deal with the SLI and also Section 6 negotiations for Appearance Techs, Acft Mechanics, Maintenance Controllers, Maintenance Trainers, Facility Maintenance Mechanics, AT Acft Mechanics, AT GSE Mechanics, AT Mx Controllers and AT Instructors all at the same time (not to mention the endless grievances that will be generated when the Company systematically violates our CBA).

That's what I thought. I rest my case.

 

[buscador]

Who at SWA likes to be insulted by Airtran, please raise your hands


Just when all I wanted to do is watch, good ol Avtech had to start insulting SWA and all the 35,000 employees again, But Kudos he did it in the FA thread. Good Job Av, your insults and lines you keep crossing are kinda fun to watch.

o yea here is an example from his last tirade.. Avtech cant wait to see our super senior girls, you know the ones who at times didnt get paid or did with stock. The super senior ones who had to dress up in hot pants in a smoke filled plane, the ones who made this Career possible for all of the SWA employees under 30 year,, yea the ones who have been around 20+ years more than AT and deserve all the credit they get,, O YEA those girls, wait for it ,,

Avtech cant wait to see our super senior girls FAIL miserably when it comes to lifting rafts, even mentions it will be FUNNY,, now I can only imagine he would hope that they get fired to help the AT girls move up, not really sure why anyone would say or wish that upon our senior girls.

Everyone else sorry for this Avtech interuption, can anyone show Avtech how to save himself from himself.,
Avtech keep up the good work, so nice to have such positive people from the AT side with such respect and appreciation for us all at SWA

 

[AvTech04]

All I can do is shake my head... Absolutely disgraceful. Please, go read the forum for yourselves and please, someone show me how to block another member on this forum... Or better yet, Buscador, if you know how to block someone, save me the trouble and block me so I don't have to see your negative ranting any further and don't feel compelled to reply just to stop you from trying to sabotage this integration..

 

[AvTech04]

All I can do is shake my head... Absolutely disgraceful. Please, go read the forum for yourselves and please, someone show me how to block another member on this forum... Or better yet, Buscador, if you know how to block someone, save me the trouble and block me so I don't have to see your negative ranting any further and don't feel compelled to reply just to stop you from trying to sabotage this integration..

 

[xUT]

All I can do is shake my head... Absolutely disgraceful. Please, go read the forum for yourselves and please, someone show me how to block another member on this forum... Or better yet, Buscador, if you know how to block someone, save me the trouble and block me so I don't have to see your negative ranting any further and don't feel compelled to reply just to stop you from trying to sabotage this integration..

IMHO, you can not block anyone but can use the ignore feature.

Ignore

Their posts are not automatically viewable. You can still view their posts but have to make a conscious decision to do so.

B) xUT

 

[buscador]

IMHO, you can not block anyone but can use the ignore feature.

Ignore

Their posts are not automatically viewable. You can still view their posts but have to make a conscious decision to do so.

B) xUT

THANKS xUT , and wasnt it Kev that told me that I have the right to post and that is the great thing about these forums.

All I asked from Avtech is to stop insulting SWA employees and be considerate if many dont feel like singing kum by ya,, but he cant.

 

[xUT]

THANKS xUT , and wasnt it Kev that told me that I have the right to post and that is the great thing about these forums.

All I asked from Avtech is to stop insulting SWA employees and be considerate if many dont feel like singing kum by ya,, but he cant.

I believe that was I: My link

I also believe in the right to ignore.
When someones continuously beats a dead horse, sometimes it's better to just ignore it.
JMHO,
B) xUT

 

[buscador]

I believe that was I: My link

I also believe in the right to ignore.
When someones continuously beats a dead horse, sometimes it's better to just ignore it.
JMHO,
B) xUT

Do you feel the same about when someone continues to insult the companies employees that bought his company??

I am done with the dead horse, everytime I try to move it gets brought to back to life. Ignore away

 

[xUT]

Do you feel the same about when someone continues to insult the companies employees that bought his company??

I am done with the dead horse, everytime I try to move it gets brought to back to life. Ignore away

You 'employees' didn't buy anything.
Your 'company' bought another 'company'. EOS!
Believe me, I understand some of your 'we are the company' ideology and I know that many have sacrificed much to make LUV what LUV is. You have a great business and I hope the bitterness does not change that. Sincerely!!

Best Regards,
B) xUT

 

[swamt]

Hey AvTech;
I know the IBT has disbanned the regular nego team from any future talks. Is that still the word to this day? And, do you all know if you guys can still at least have membership observers?
The first big day is tommarrow. Hell, you never know man, this whole thing could pass. We have heard alot of yelling and screamin in the past over contracts, everyone (just like we are hearing now) screamin no's out there, then somehow it passes by the majority. It just goes to show you that once people get their ballots, sit in the privacy of their homes, they will in fact vote the way it effects them personally, not the way they think everyone else wants them to vote.
Hope you also know that other SWA employees posting on here does not reflect all SWA employees. If this is voted in, then so be it, there's nothing I could possibly do to change that. Once it's done, it's done. All AT mechanics will be welcomed onboard. Please realize that at this time it is just business. Once we are all one company, we all more than welcome the passion you have now for your company to transfer with you guys over to SWA. Also, if it is voted in I will be the one of the first ones to congradulate you all.

 

[AvTech04]

Hey AvTech;
I know the IBT has disbanned the regular nego team from any future talks. Is that still the word to this day? And, do you all know if you guys can still at least have membership observers?
The first big day is tommarrow. Hell, you never know man, this whole thing could pass. We have heard alot of yelling and screamin in the past over contracts, everyone (just like we are hearing now) screamin no's out there, then somehow it passes by the majority. It just goes to show you that once people get their ballots, sit in the privacy of their homes, they will in fact vote the way it effects them personally, not the way they think everyone else wants them to vote.
Hope you also know that other SWA employees posting on here does not reflect all SWA employees. If this is voted in, then so be it, there's nothing I could possibly do to change that. Once it's done, it's done. All AT mechanics will be welcomed onboard. Please realize that at this time it is just business. Once we are all one company, we all more than welcome the passion you have now for your company to transfer with you guys over to SWA. Also, if it is voted in I will be the one of the first ones to congradulate you all.

To be totally honest, it's been hush hush from the IBT since they took over the negotiations. All we'vr heard from them is what we CAN'T do until this voting is done, meaning our IBT chief steward trying to restrict us from our own contract until we are merged together. Not allowing us to bank our holidays, agreeing with the company about out 2 floating TRAX days etc... Fortunately we got lost of that worked out....

I'm falling off topic here, as far as I know, there has been no attempt to regroup our negotiation team. I'm exactly like you, if it passes then I'm ready to move on and work together, if it doesn't, I'd like to see us at least take one more crack at working it out between ourselves. I just want this done and over with we can move forward.

 

[buscador]

You 'employees' didn't buy anything.
Your 'company' bought another 'company'. EOS!
Believe me, I understand some of your 'we are the company' ideology and I know that many have sacrificed much to make LUV what LUV is. You have a great business and I hope the bitterness does not change that. Sincerely!!

Best Regards,
B) xUT

Your absolutley correct and many have sacrificed to make Luv one of most respected Airlines in the world. I hope that bitterness and Change doesnt effect the culture here as well, we had a good thing going.