IBEW update: November 6th-

[redeye]

I believe the appeal USAIRWAYS filed is not based on the decision of the
Arbitraitor but on whether or not he should have been the one to hear the
case and make the decision. The company believes this matter should be
heard by the courts and not an arbitraitor. The decision is final, who makes
the ruling is what the company is appealing.....This is a legal matter now, not an
IAM matter. The IAM tried to sell it in return for the past TA, namely positive space
for IAM's AGC' and VP's ....
Thanks

The Company filed with the courts. I think they tried to appear before Judge Mitchell.
The courts said that it was not within their jurisdiction and that it fell under the
jurisdiction of the Railway Labor Act. This decision compelled the company to appear
before the Arbitrator. The company is now appealing the jurisdiction decision. The
company now has the burden of proving that the courts were incorrect in the basis
for their decision. This will be nearly impossible.

Thaks,

 

[redeye]

What the heck. Why are we on this site! I thought we could make a difference. Wait! WaiT Wait!. I think we should beat up the IBEW in Phoenix the same way IAM beat up the TWU in PHilly. Remember, this Friday at the British Air conference room. Come! Voice yourselves. Friday, Nov. 9th. We didn't here this from Tim Nelson. Sorry, Tim. You unfortunately have great ideas but unions prevail.

Its funny how some people just don't get it.
Violence is not the way.

 

[lithuanian]

Change in Control Litigation Update

PLEASE POST PLEASE POST
August 23, 2007
TO: All US Airways IAM Members
Dear Sisters and Brothers:

This summer, US Airways filed an appeal of the Machinists Unions’ District Court win
that compelled the airline to go forward with the Change in Control arbitration. The
arbitration is currently scheduled to begin next month. Today, the court of appeals
ordered that the BRIEFING schedule on the appeal would not begin until November 7, 2007.
While this does not affect the arbitration schedule, it does mean that a decision on US
Airways’ appeal is not expected until Spring, 2008 or later.

sunofsamsonite

Mike, 33. Why, did you think it was important to add this?

 

[mike33]

Lith


Just to reply to tim that it was sked as a briefing schedule today. nothing more.....

 

[lithuanian]

Are we ALL SCREWED! The RAILROAD ACT PREVENTS US FROM STRIKING! Quit! thinking we have to go for the rules.
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[redeye]

Are we ALL SCREWED! The RAILROAD ACT PREVENTS US FROM STRIKING! Quit! thinking we have to go for the rules.
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Wrong,

the Railway Labor Act does not prevent anyone from striking if they follow
the procedures. If a UNION is not smart enough or have the will to enter
into section 6 negotiations, its members can not be in a position to strike.
Don't blame the RLA

http://www.nmb.gov/documents/rla.html

Thanks,

 

[lithuanian]

Are we ALL SCREWED! The RAILROAD ACT PREVENTS US FROM STRIKING! Quit! thinking we have to go for the rules.
So! We all have to think it's about the railroad act. I also heard that 12 years ago at AWA. I also heard when we were TWU we could not apply for a LM2. The original leaders stole lap tops and were nothing more than idealists.
We started with TWU and now have IAM. WE have inexperience leading unions. They are all practitioners! Good luck hoping unions result in changes. Go! for the experience. Go, for members that have been there. So sorry, workers of US Airways did not pay attention to who represented them 13 years ago.

 

[redeye]

Are we ALL SCREWED! The RAILROAD ACT PREVENTS US FROM STRIKING! Quit! thinking we have to go for the rules.
So! We all have to think it's about the railroad act. I also heard that 12 years ago at AWA. I also heard when we were TWU we could not apply for a LM2. The original leaders stole lap tops and were nothing more than idealists.
We started with TWU and now have IAM. WE have inexperience leading unions. They are all practitioners! Good luck hoping unions result in changes. Go! for the experience. Go, for members that have been there. So sorry, workers of US Airways did not pay attention to who represented them 13 years ago.

http://www.dol.gov/esa/regs/compliance/olms/rrlo/lmrda.htm

Find any LM2 for any union posted online

This is why you are at this forum.

Information! Networking. Ideas.

Rants don't always work.
Neither do calls to engage in violence.

 

[mike33]

Lith

Maybe it's not WHO that represents you, but How they represent YOU. And if they don't represent you corectly, then............ you change the WHO

 

[lithuanian]

So, If we don't rant a union will make a difference! In politics it ranges from frantic to logical. And then there is the vote.

 

[Labor Dawg]

Lith This forum is for anyone who wants to talk about how they wish things would be done. However you do not get the right to demand that a forum be closed just because you don't get your way. People who work on the east have never said one thing neg. to you. We want everyone to be included but we will not give up what is ours. Keep one thing in mind. The east gave alot for this airline. The IAM decided to give the west apart of our profit sharing {that was in our contract that was forced onto us by a bankruptcy court} that the west had no claim to. With that being said that really was the one thing they did right. We are all suffering and we need to be together, but guys like you and the IAM are the ones that want us to be seperate. I would gladley split some of my profit sharing if it means we stand together against the company. The sad thing is the IAM not only wants to give away my profit sharing, but also what they promised you in profit sharing. They also put all their eggs in one basket and ignored your section six negs. The IBEW guys you want to fight are the very ones who have been fighting to get you representation. The thing that disturbs me is that you want to fight us, but the IAM is threatening the west guys that are standing up for you.They have already told people[that are talking about the IBEW, Signing cards or passing out cards] in all of the hubs they are going to strip them of their cards and when that happens they will loose their jobs. Does that sound like a union that cares about you or do they just care about their pockets? Dude get with the program and stop making it about the east VS the west. Make it about being misrepresented by the IAM.

 

[mike33]

So, If we don't rant a union will make a difference! In politics it ranges from frantic to logical. And then there is the vote.

Lith

.....use Google and learn you work in a state that is a RIGHT-TO-WORK state if ur from PHX. They can take ur card, maybe, but cant stop you from working there..........

 

[lithuanian]

ya know! You all make some kind of sense but no sense at all. Let's wait!

 

[mike33]

PEACE BROTHER


Make Contracts Not War !
edited:

Lith I appologize..I should have dissected it further...Railroads and Airlines are exempt......

sunofsamsonite

 

[700UW]

Lith

.....use Google and learn you work in a state that is a RIGHT-TO-WORK state if ur from PHX. They can take ur card, maybe, but cant stop you from working there..........

State Right to Work (for less) Laws, do not apply to workers under the RLA.

You have pay dues that are germane to the CBA, if you choose that rought to be a dues objector, you become a non-member, lose your vote on a CBA, Strike and your local, district and international elections.

You also lose the right to attend any union meetings.

Check Beck vs the CWA or Whirpool vs the Machinists.

All of US' CBAs contain the Union Security clause which is legal under the RLA, you have to pay dues to maintain employment, failure to do so can cause you to be terminated.