IAM Withdraws NMB Election Application

[southwind]

No, I have said PS should be divided equally amongst /every/ employee. Still want that. Not gonna argue or apologize for it. We all had an equal hand in generating that revenue, we all should see an equal return on it.

So basically an employee with 6 months, should receive the same amount as someone with 30 years....how socialistic of you!

 

[Kev3188]

I would prefer someone complete a full year before being eligible, but if you prefer a pro-rating, that's cool too.

Socialist, egalitarian; call it whatever you want. We're on the same team, right?

 

[WeAAsles]

What is wrong with the idea of true profit "sharing"?

I don't see anyone on here asking to be compensated at the same rate as a pilot or an executive.

But Kev is right. Everyone in the company contributes to the bottom line and without any group performing their duties the entire system collapses.

PS should be equal across the board.

 

[WeAAsles]

And that 30 year employee already receives far more in compensation than his peer with 6 months. (As it should be)

 

[700UW]

all DL employees, PMDL and PMNW have frozen, not terminated pensions. it is the UA and US employees who lost their airline pensions.

 

 
 

my comments were in reference to rampers and maintenance and not pilots.

 

Ok show me where you stated that?
 
Once again you make up things and get called out.

 

[WorldTraveler]

the context....the very thing you have NEVER been able to understand in discussions.

and you prove it by continuing to argue when I have specifically stated twice, now three times, what I meant. but you would rather argue than accept what was not only clearly stated for clarification but what the context indicates.

as to the question of PS, when you find a company that pays all employees the exact same profit sharing despite more than 10X difference in their salaries, let me know.

PS follows the exact same division of PS as regular salaries get.

If you think all employees should get the same pay, argue that res agents and 777 captains should all get the same regular pay and let me know how that turns out and we will go from there if you succeed. okey dokey?

 

[700UW]

Maybe you should stop posting misinformation.
 
Your words clearly state ALL.
 
How about the NK schedule?
 
How about the DL/VS JV being the most profitable JV in history.
 
Come on man, your nothing but a common liar, who posts lies, and misinformation and you try to spin and deflect your way out of it.
 
No wonder why your -10,000 and growing!

 

[WorldTraveler]

again, you are nothing but a hypocritical fraud that wants to call everyone else every name in the book while trying to defame a person over a point that you can't understand and can't accept what was said now 3 times what was said.

I said the same thing about NK and a dozen other topics but you don't want to accept it.

You are the prime example of why DL employees are turned off to the IAM.

When people like you are who advocate for the IAM, you do more damage than you could possibly imagine.... but you aren't smart enough to know it.

Go ahead and argue. the sun rises in the east, PMDL pilots at DL/NW lost their pensions.... we know it.

move on and quit doing more damage to the IAM every time you open your mouth.

 

[WeAAsles]

The dude is STILL ignoring my total value "carreer" compensation?

I'm feeling so neglected here. C'mon. man, throw me some spin.

 

[WorldTraveler]

Composed of how calculate it and glad you like it

 

[WeAAsles]

Composed of how calculate it and glad you like it

"Junk Mail"

 

[southwind]

Maybe you should stop posting misinformation.
 

Now, look in the mirror and repeat the above!

 

[southwind]

I would prefer someone complete a full year before being eligible, but if you prefer a pro-rating, that's cool too.
Socialist, egalitarian; call it whatever you want. We're on the same team, right?

And here we go with the "Living Wage" theory! Correct, we are on the same team but QB's usually make more than lineman....correct?

 

[WeAAsles]

And here we go with the "Living Wage" theory! Correct, we are on the same team but QB's usually make more than lineman....correct?

Don't they all get the same Superbowl ring if they win? Again who said everyone should make the same wages? Of course not.

And Pilots can gain more for their services because they have the ability to negotiate for that. They can sit in a room with management and debate and discuss issues related to both them and the airline. They then get to vote as a collective if any changes to their terms of employment are acceptable. If not, they go back to the table till they come to terms that are.

That's a nice thing huh? Rather than being at the total whim of your employers desires.

 

[WorldTraveler]

if negotiating in and of itself resulted in higher salaries, then why isn't there a single US airline that pays the same for pilots and other groups?

given that most of the industry EXCEPT for DL has unions with pilots plus other groups, it should be provable that non-pilots should benefit at those other airlines with higher total compensation but that isn't the case.

Despite the class envy that you and other leaders love to put on display, unions have shown no success in bringing up salaries relative to other workgroups including mgmt.