IAM update on NMB decision

[delldude]

Dell what's up with your low opinion of the GSE Mechanic? Have you tried some counseling for that or maybe you should go straight to the medication.

what kind of meds? I haven't been stoned in a long,long time..

I'm sorry if I dissed you as I'd bet you came up through the ranks that way...it wasn't my intent....
at U there was big issue between A/P mech's and GSE mech's...me personally,NOT...but GSE mech's had issue with A/P's being able to bump into GSE and they had no recourse but out the door.....sorry...just a contractual issue.So if you bumped into GSE you were most assuredly going to get screwed by the leads and mech's if you had tickets...

Our repairman here for the most part are A&P's in waiting here, and we were at the table trying to change thier fate too when Dougie pulled his boner.

I understand but believe you have a liability issue with "unlicensed mechanics in training".U did away with the "through the ranks avenue"..and I bet it was a issue of liability.
non ticketed dude gets in the woods,a licensed mech/inspector misses a glitch in a repair...bingo....155 die...see you and your bank account in court.
besides....the A/P who is charged with supervising the non licensed is the one who will get fined and go to sing sing.
I speak from past experience here....as a lead.And I believe the FAR's require repairmen to be under the direct supervision of a licensed mech...

 

[jetmech01890]

what kind of meds? I haven't been stoned in a long,long time..

I'm sorry if I dissed you as I'd bet you came up through the ranks that way...it wasn't my intent....
at U there was big issue between A/P mech's and GSE mech's...me personally,NOT...but GSE mech's had issue with A/P's being able to bump into GSE and they had no recourse but out the door.....sorry...just a contractual issue.So if you bumped into GSE you were most assuredly going to get screwed by the leads and mech's if you had tickets...
I understand but believe you have a liability issue with "unlicensed mechanics in training".U did away with the "through the ranks avenue"..and I bet it was a issue of liability.
non ticketed dude gets in the woods,a licensed mech/inspector misses a glitch in a repair...bingo....155 die...see you and your bank account in court.
besides....the A/P who is charged with supervising the non licensed is the one who will get fined and go to sing sing.
I speak from past experience here....as a lead.And I believe the FAR's require repairmen to be under the direct supervision of a licensed mech...

and it goes the other way also,you got a ticket you can bump, but even we are not considered skilled labor we have responsibilites no one else has other than the flight crew for me its a pride thing when i sign that log book sorry they have got to go even though we are union brothers
but the A/P thing takes it one step further above this union crap

 

[EricLv2Fish]

I think it's the act of fixing a broke aircraft and signing your name it was fixed right that brings a special feeling of pride and accomplishment...a "high" so to speak that is addictive to those in our profession...and keeps us plugging away in this field. Though not working directly as a mechanic currently, the "high" is still there everyday when going to work.

 

[delldude]

fixing it right the first time....doesn't matter if its a toaster a Harley or some clunker A/C.....geet 'er dunn rite the first time.

about that high feeling going to work....try a divers weight belt,it'll keep your feet down and head outa the clouds....

 

[EricLv2Fish]

fixing it right the first time....doesn't matter if its a toaster a Harley or some clunker A/C.....geet 'er dunn rite the first time.

about that high feeling going to work....try a divers weight belt,it'll keep your feet down and head outa the clouds....

Actually ankle belts work pretty good too Dell

 

[700UW]

Or cement shoes from Guido, lol.

 

[700AW]

Yes outsourced after two bankruptcies in less then two years and three rounds of concessions, yet the IAM/CBA still contains more work done in-house by IAM members then your so-called superior HP/ibt CBA contains.

How can that be?

What insult will you cast at me next?

no insults, just let you know that us mechs can handle our contract, you can worry about your new contract... we don't need your advice on what we are going to do in the future... let the big boys take care of it....

 

[700UW]

If your cba at hp is any example then everyone is in big trouble.

 

[gonzo]

If your cba at hp is any example then everyone is in big trouble.

That's right.......under the IBT contract you will still have a job....there won't be any outsourcing with the contract established......back shops are being returned and not outsourced...more vacation time...our contract is under negotiation (not locked until 2009 PLUS)......etc. Yep, those are things to worry about 7........Hmmmmm or are they.

 

[700UW]

Dude what are you reading?

All your heavy checks are outsourced, no work would be returning if everyone went to the ibt cba, all the checks would be farmed out, just like they are at HP to Aeroman in El Salvador and Timco at GYR and Macon.

Your snow job will not work, the facts speak for themselves.

Your contract is dead in the water, there have been NO negotiations in months, gee another snow job?

And everyone will fall under the IAM/US CBA no matter what happens.

Keep trying to post misinformation and you will be exposed every single time!

 

[Awa Contract]

Once again you are blowing smoke out of both ends at the same time - you, yourself have said that reguardless of who wins the election (if one is declared) that the IAM contract is the surviving contract so the amount of work would remain a constant under either group. Make up your mind which story are you telling this week.

 

[gonzo]

Dude what are you reading?

All your heavy checks are outsourced, no work would be returning if everyone went to the ibt cba, all the checks would be farmed out, just like they are at HP to Aeroman in El Salvador and Timco at GYR and Macon.

Your snow job will not work, the facts speak for themselves.

Your contract is dead in the water, there have been NO negotiations in months, gee another snow job?

And everyone will fall under the IAM/US CBA no matter what happens.

Keep trying to post misinformation and you will be exposed every single time!

There is no misinformation 7.....there is only your denial to accept the truth. You sound like a "broken record". This has been talked about many times and you still accuse people of "misinformation". I know ...I know...if it's not what you want people to believe then it is not true. Yes....the facts speak for themselves.

Does the IAM CBA allow outsourcing 7? You cant't answer that can you with out a long drawn out explaination or just avoiding the question all together.

Here are the choices: NO or YES. You can't do it can you LOL......

 

[700UW]

Contract,

I was replying to gonzo who believes your ibt cba is so great, it is so great aeroman and timco does your heavy, his previous post led people to believe everyone will fall under the ibt cba and it is being negotiated which it is not.


And to mr misinformation:

And yes it allows outsourcing after a bankrupcty judge abrogated the previous CBA, and we still overhaul over 50% of the fleet, can you say the same?

 

[gonzo]

Contract,

I was replying to gonzo who believes your ibt cba is so great, it is so great aeroman and timco does your heavy, his previous post led people to believe everyone will fall under the ibt cba and it is being negotiated which it is not.
And to mr misinformation:

And yes it allows outsourcing after a bankrupcty judge abrogated the previous CBA, and we still overhaul over 50% of the fleet, can you say the same?

A simple "yes, it allows outsourcing" is all that is needed 7. The negotiations have halted because of the pending vote. I don't believe I said anything about everyone falling under the IBT CBA. I was just pointing out that you like to "slam" the IBT CBA and that there are some very good points of the IBT CBA.

So the IAM CBA does allow outsourcing. The IBT CBA does not if the work was previously done "in house". Is that so hard for you to understand?

Yes, we believe that our contract is a good one. Especially in the light of the events that occurred to the "old US Airways" IAM CBA. It has kept everyone employed....if you consider that a bad starting point then there is something wrong........NO, it is not perfect and it needs improvement and hopefully we will be working on it again soon.

 

[700UW]

Your contract will be going away and there wont be any negotiations on it, everyone will fall under the IAM/US CBA.