IAM update on NMB decision

[gonzo]

Gonzo,

The bankrutpcy judge abrogated the CBA, the membership voted and ratified a final offer that allowed outsourcing, is that too hard for you to comprehend?

And your ibt failed to get the checks back in-house, your heavy is done by Aeroman and Timco, the US/East A320 family and 737s are all done in-house, you can't say the same.ROFL....aaah.....ok.? Remember now what the company giveth to the IAM the company can taketh away, that's in the IAM CBA. What the company giveth the IBT the IBT keepeth. That's in the IBT CBA.

Funny I went to your local 104 ibt webpage and pulled up your 1998-2003 agreement and got your wage figures right out of section Section 20, pages 62, 63 and 64.I don't believe the wage comment was about AWA wages.......I do believe that the post was about UPS and others. Our wages are not the best....but we get to keep earning them....unlike many of the "sacrificial" members of the IAM.

Contract 1998

What about your lower paid mechanics, you ignore that and I did not even compare the wage differences in the stock clerks.You mean our lower paid EMPLOYEED mechanics and stock clerks?
Why cant your ibt get US to the table?If I remember correctly the union and the company decided to hold off on the negotiations. I believe they figured that they would be changing several things after the IBT is representing the Mechanics and related, so why continue with a contract that will have to be redone....now don't read to much into this 7 and get yourself all worked up.

Funny how you selectively ignore the rest of the post, what is wrong, can't refute the facts?It seems that no matter what I respond to it is never the correct response or proper subject, you will just have to accept what I post 7.

 

[gonzo]

Gonzo,

The bankrutpcy judge abrogated the CBA, the membership voted and ratified a final offer that allowed outsourcing, is that too hard for you to comprehend? After 55 years of doing it in-house it took a bankruptcy judge to accomplish that feat.

Contract 1998

Geee....we have never heard that before... just every other of your posts. Just say that the IAM CBA allows outsourcing...we don't need a song and dance or "eight by ten color glossies".

 

[Charlie_Tuna]

.pdf]NMB full ruling

Did IBT get over 2000 cards?

 

[700UW]

Same old song and dance for you gonzo, keep ducking, dodging and deflecting.

Funny AWA Contract said the company cancelled the talks, not the ibt.

And like I said the IAM/US CBA still after two trips through bankrupty still employees more mechanics and still do more work in-house then your ibt/HP CBA.

 

[Awa Contract]

and you have done such a good job - How many thousands out of work under your CBA. Now folks its time for another 700 preprint and authorized responses. Time for a change - IAM is outdated and useless.

 

[700UW]

The IAM preserved the majority of the jobs during the first chatper 11 filing but was unable to reach an agreement with the company as they wanted 54% of the workforce eliminated in bankruptcy two and the judge abrogated, but yet you still cant comprehend that fact.

But yet you continue to spew your hatred and misinformation.

Why did the ibt give concessions at CO and they were not in bankruptcy?

If the ibt is so wonderful, why cant you get the heavy checks in-house?

If the ibt is so great why did they get voted out at WN and NW?

 

[Awa Contract]

yep - I was right another preprinted and authorized response from 700 - just more of the same from the IAM -- you have already been told why from many and multiple times - ya gotta see O'dribble and get a better response

 

[gonzo]

Funny AWA Contract said the company cancelled the talks, not the ibt.

Ahhhh......well consider yourself up-dated 7.

The IAM preserved the majority of the jobs during the first chatper 11 filing but was unable to reach an agreement with the company as they wanted 54% of the workforce eliminated in bankruptcy two and the judge abrogated, but yet you still cant comprehend that fact.

But yet you continue to spew your hatred and misinformation.

Why did the ibt give concessions at CO and they were not in bankruptcy?

If the ibt is so wonderful, why cant you get the heavy checks in-house?

If the ibt is so great why did they get voted out at WN and NW?

This is great.....you have "canned" responses. This is identical to the response on another thread. ROFL....good job 7.....good job.

The IAM preserved the majority of the jobs during the first chatper 11 filing but.......

The IBT has "preserved" all of our jobs.....since it has been at AWA. I know about the judge... 7.....still the word "MAJORITY" means jobs lost.

 

[smmech]

.pdf]NMB full ruling

Did IBT get over 2000 cards?

Not sure if I am correct but the ruling stated that in this case the current senority list from the west ( 833 M & R) counts as part of the 35%.. So 35%of 6011 is 2103..

2103-833=1270... We have been told there are enough cards regaurdless of utility/stock clerk outcome, so the clerks being removed should put is well above...

 

[delldude]

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