I just saw the Seniority List

[USstew23]

I'd prefer to stick one up my *** , so I can sweep the floor!

hahahahahahaha!!! oh my god we must be related!!

 

[hula-flyguy]

hahahahahahaha!!! oh my god we must be related!!

Massages and ass brooming, both great ideas! I think that the post was taken a bit too literal. I'm not saying that you should NEVER read a magazine. What I'm saying is that on a 4 hour flight, you should be accessible to the passengers. Dont run to the galley or your jump seat after the service and sit for 3 hours catching up on your magazines, or doing your real estate work, or complaining about the company with another f/a...or worse, another employee in a pax seat.

If that hits a nerve with you, then perhaps you need to take a look at your work habits. I am not implying that ALL f/a's do this...in fact, it is a very small percnetage....But you DO know that it happens.

 

[Dea Certe]

Well said, hula fly guy. That's my point exactly. I admit I like to putter and can always find things to do, whether it be cleaning the galley (what a concept) or sorting out my tote bag.

I am not against flight attendants taking breaks, Heaven knows we need them. You try working six legs, usually full, "tidying" in between flights and trying at some point to get some nutrition. Slim-fast and pretzels ain't exactly a balanced diet.

Dea

 

[SKY HIGH]

Dont run to the galley or your jump seat after the service and sit for 3 hours catching up on your magazines, or doing your real estate work, or complaining about the company with another f/a...or worse, another employee in a pax seat. If that hits a nerve with you, then perhaps you need to take a look at your work habits.

Sky high states: Why feel guilty about the LACK OF SERVICE that flight attendants provide their customers?
WE werent the ones who decided to remove the HOT MEALS from coach, the hot towels, the mints, the ice cream...etc.
In reality, the "inflight service" is minimal. What's changed is that the DUTY DAYS can be long. Everyone is flying ALOT more to make up for the paycuts. Cleaning the aircraft between flights used to be the DOWNTIME. Now, it's in the AIR.
If you feel giving the passenger a soda/pretzels is excellent service. Guess what, IT IS NOW. But, I would argue with this company that it calls itself a Low cost-FULL SERVICE airline. Full service creates expectations to the customer when they COMPARE US to other low cost carriers who now provide such things as satelite TV and leather seats in coach.
You've done the service "per procedure?" Checked on passengers periodically..........

SIT DOWN........the duty day will exhaust you!!

 

[Furloughd4now]

How bout going back to original post?

How come only ONE person saw the whole seniority list? I'd like to see it too!
Also Can we delve more into that topic instead who qualifies good service? :blink:

thanks and Happy New Year, Fly Safe!

 

[Travelpro72]

Exactly..... talk about waaaaaay off topic. So where is this list to view anyway? I looked all over the afa site on the east side and found nothing. <_<

 

[l8rd8r]

The OP could scan it and down load it for us to see. Who's the friend and where did they get it? Sounds fishy. I'm curious.

 

[USstew23]

Massages and ass brooming, both great ideas! I think that the post was taken a bit too literal. I'm not saying that you should NEVER read a magazine. What I'm saying is that on a 4 hour flight, you should be accessible to the passengers. Dont run to the galley or your jump seat after the service and sit for 3 hours catching up on your magazines, or doing your real estate work, or complaining about the company with another f/a...or worse, another employee in a pax seat.

If that hits a nerve with you, then perhaps you need to take a look at your work habits. I am not implying that ALL f/a's do this...in fact, it is a very small percnetage....But you DO know that it happens.

I agree hula I was talking about the wacky humor though.

 

[TheNewLowFare]

How bout going back to original post?

How come only ONE person saw the whole seniority list? I'd like to see it too!
Also Can we delve more into that topic instead who qualifies good service? :blink:

thanks and Happy New Year, Fly Safe!

The seniority list that I saw was the one posted in the HUB. The US East June 2005 seniority list only. It doesn't include the US West F/As seniority list, so it is not updated.

I don't know how many US East F/As have left ever since. How did I figure out my seniority? Easy, I counted the ones that are below me (US West and US East).

 

[Twicebaked]

Sky high states: Why feel guilty about the LACK OF SERVICE that flight attendants provide their customers?
WE werent the ones who decided to remove the HOT MEALS from coach, the hot towels, the mints, the ice cream...etc.
In reality, the "inflight service" is minimal.

Last time I checked, a f/a MAIN purpose is SAFETY not to provide you service. That is a perk for you and gives us something to do. FAA could give a sh#t what we serve you, but they do one how we protect you.....

So back to that seniority list.

 

[AL-PS-PI-AW]

Last time I checked, a f/a MAIN purpose is SAFETY not to provide you service. That is a perk for you and gives us something to do. FAA could give a sh#t what we serve you, but they do one how we protect you.....

So back to that seniority list.

SAFETY is the most important SERVICE we offer the traveling public as flight attendants.

 

[UWCactus]

Last time I checked, a f/a MAIN purpose is SAFETY not to provide you service. That is a perk for you and gives us something to do. FAA could give a sh#t what we serve you, but they do one how we protect you.....

So back to that seniority list.

This is utter BS. Yes it's true that the FAA only places FA's on board to deal with emergency related situations. The individual airlines are in a business venture, that thrives on generating revenue. Customers that buy tickets and fly, generate the revenue needed. Like it or not "flight attendant", service is what the customer also looks for.

Service has little to do with amenities that are provided, but rather the compassion, courtesy, willing to help customer service that people enjoy. Service extends beyond, the hot meal in 1st class or the free soda in coach. Service is about assisting that elderly passenger to the bathroom, listening to someones trouble with their travel, offering a glass of ice water to someone that may need it because they are sweating. Service is about "anticipating a persons needs". Flight Attendants have taken the "safety" issue too far sometimes, and we all forget that in the end, we are a safety and service industry. Safety is first, but service is right up there with it, because the service dominates most of the time.

 

[Travelpro72]

Exactly. Though we are safety professionals, we are tied into the service industry and all knew it who took the job as a flight attendant. A cop does his job daily as does a firefighter who fights fires and doctors who take care of patients. Though we may be trained in the event of an emergency to do out duties we are there for the service of the passenger. It is the nature of the job. Some take the "safety professional" thing way to far. When the plane is flying smoothly and no passenger is giving you grief you are a pillow grabbing, blanket searching, soda pouring, meal selling and constant smiling flight attendant. Though many say we are there by the FAA as safety professionals, to the company you are there for SERVICE. That is what they hired you for along with the FAA requiring you to be there. When I say you I mean ME as well as I sling it with everyone else. It is what it is.

 

[DCAflyer]

WEST (afa66) has stopped all work on the list in protest to the companies behavior with negotiating the WEST contract. So, yes there is a list you can go look at. But remember the HP list isn't finished with the protest phase, and the EAST list they have on site is from MAY 05. It does'nt include early outs or retirements that have occurred since.

This is in blatant violation of the AFA-CWA Bylaws. The merger representatives are required to work "without delay", and the dictate of the Council 66 MEC president is without merit. There are two seperate and distinct processes here... one is the negotiation of the U-West contract, and the other is the seniority integration. The stall tactics are unacceptable and should immediately be investigated by Pat Friend. If U-West MEC and merger representatives don't complete their work in the timely manner required by the bylaws, and if they arbitrarilly stopped working on the seniority integration process, then U-West flight attendants should be stapled to the bottom. The process is the process and there is no excuse for their constant delays, cries, gripes, complaints, and general overall bitching.

Let's get the frucking thing done so we can all move forward.

 

[l8rd8r]

AMEN!