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Ifly2 said:
Or used known false and already discredited "intelligence" to justify the war he and his neocon buds had already decided on having.

Rummy got his neat little war to "prove" his theories, Dickie II and his buds got rich(er), and the True Believers got a chance to force their way of life on a nation of people who despise noth us and those values.

Epic Epic Fail

Worst President Ever, Anywhere
 
Bill Clinton:
 
“People can quarrel with whether we should have more troops in Afghanistan or internationalize Iraq or whatever, but it is incontestable that on the day I left office, there were unaccounted for stocks of biological and chemical weapons.”
 
http://dailycaller.c...addam-has-wmds/
 
Ifly2 said:
Never denied Saddam was a "bad guy"

Only W and Co acted on poor and already discredited - by them own selves - intelligence to mislead Congress and the American People in order to justify the war they wanted.

It was not necessary to lie to the American People.

If the only way to depose Saddam was to invade and occupy Iraq, then make your case to the public and Congress, be honest about the reasons, the goals and the costs.

 W "The Decider" and Co lied to Congress and the people.

The public suppoerted the War On Terror, as in AQ and the Taliban, and those who support them. W turned his back on that war to pursue the NeoCons' puppet-gone-rogue of the day, and he lied about what we were doing, and why, and what the costs were.
 
Bill Clinton:
 
“People can quarrel with whether we should have more troops in Afghanistan or internationalize Iraq or whatever, but it is incontestable that on the day I left office, there were unaccounted for stocks of biological and chemical weapons.”
 
http://dailycaller.c...addam-has-wmds/
 
Unaccounted for

We invade and occupy soveriegn nations, creating anarchy, destabilizing regions, giving rise to terrorist organizations and caliphates, kill hundreds of thousands of the wrong people and blow $2 Trillion dollars over...

Unaccounted for...???

Hans Blix said he and his team could find no evidence of an active WMD program, and "we" go with " The Drunk Arab", Ahmed Chalibi and "evidence" that the Bush administration had itself discredited?

And people are still defending that?
 
This is a democratic public
Why not make an honest case to the American People?
Lay out the reasons, and the real costs, and the sacrifice required - Honestly!

And then listen?

We know North Korea has missiles, and nukes, and a bad guy dictator, and we are still technically at war with them.

Why not another invasion, occupation and refime change and democracy-sowing there?
China?
Most of Africa?
Saudi Arabia?
Iran?
 
Someone say somethng about somebody and a pig?

I don't even like her, and don't really want her as president, but really, random political hack trickery is all we have for public discourse?

Seriously?
 
Ifly2 said:
I Didn't watch it
Didn't say I did
Why would I watch :19 of Hillary?
Might as well, your head is firmly embedded so far up the DNC's behind, that you've lost all concept of independent thought and judgement.
 
Not so much

Already decided not to vote for her, said that a few times too

If there were a decent independent, say a pragmatic Libertarian, I could look there. So far, there isn't.

I have spent a lot more than :19 looking unto Kasich, mostly in print vs. video, not that it matters since he hasn't a chance with the Ridiculous Right part of the GOP.
 
Ifly2 said:
Not so much
Already decided not to vote for her, said that a few times too
If there were a decent independent, say a pragmatic Libertarian, I could look there. So far, there isn't.
I have spent a lot more than :19 looking unto Kasich, mostly in print vs. video, not that it matters since he hasn't a chance with the Ridiculous Right part of the GOP.
So then who?
 
If something doesn't change, and the Repubs nominate anyone but K (so far... And I am not saying I will vote for him, I am saying that I might think about it...)

No one

No one to vote for, and I am not choosing between the lesser of two evils
 
Ifly2 said:
If something doesn't change, and the Repubs nominate anyone but K (so far... And I am not saying I will vote for him, I am saying that I might think about it...)
No one
No one to vote for, and I am not choosing between the lesser of two evils
Yeah I been hearing that a lot. The DNC has been hijacked by feminazi's hell bent on pushing the old rich 90's retread hag despite no one wants her.

And then there's Sanders.... lolololooooo
 
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