firings in LGA

[Overspeed]

So are you saying there is broken items that a person isn't finding currently? Isn't that a safety concern?

 

[blue collar]

So are you saying there is broken items that a person isn't finding currently? Isn't that a safety concern?

There might be. Some guys if pushed hard enough make those GVIs into DVIs- and you know there's much more possibility to find something the closer you look at it. Are you management?

 

[Rogallo]

He's a TWU stooge, same thing!

 

[Zom JFK]

"Don't worry low time union brother/sister I got your back,.......now go load that 8000lbs of fish while I finish my game of dominos". 

And im sure when you are a senior man on the job you will volunteer for that 8000lbs of fish flight. So you will have the junior guys back of course. Look, at AA they do get carried away with the "junior man" thing. However at all Jobs I have been on union or not the junior guys tend to get the less desirable assignments.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

And im sure when you are a senior man on the job you will volunteer for that 8000lbs of fish flight. So you will have the junior guys back of course.

I think what you mean is IF he is ever senior man on the job. The way the TWU is giving away jobs his options are getting more limited by the contract.
 

Look, at AA they do get carried away with the "junior man" thing. 

No kidding.
 

However at all Jobs I have been on union or not the junior guys tend to get the less desirable assignments.

Tend being the operative word. At American Airlines it is all but guaranteed. 
 

Of course when people like AANYER play favorites well..... he is just a "good ole UNION boy". To see him come on here and claim to be in a position to represent the membership and then start making declarations of guilt and innocence (publicly) should turn the stomach of anybody on here that is truly UNION. I guess members forget the philosophy of "equal representation" when it is convenient. 
 
The fact nobody else has even called AANYER out for that is disturbing to say the least. That shows how easily sheeple can be led I guess.

So not one of you is going to call him out on this? Cowards.
 
AANYER has the nerve to come on here and criticize someone's ethics, yet claims to be in a position to defend him all while making public statements of his guilt. 
 
This does not bother anyone else on here?
 
Seriously?
 
No wonder the TWU walks all over you.
 

I will say it again, this generation of workers in NOT career minded. They don't care if they lose your trust or not because they pretty much count on any job being fairly temporary. You need to understand you are not dealing with a group of people that live by the same code of ethics you do. From their perspective why should they sacrifice (pay dues) for a job they don't even think they are going to have in 5 years, especially when it takes 9 years to top out and the industry has shown a tendency to lose ground in job security, wages, and benefits.

So not one of you is even going to take this under consideration?

 

[blue collar]

No, not cowards. We all know better and how this situation probably played out. A rat is a rat, and you chose his side. This has nothing to do with being TWU or not, no matter how much you try to make it that. In case you can't tell, all of your preaching is falling on deaf ears.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

No, not cowards. 

Yes, cowards.
 
Enabling a bullying is not the act of a man, it is the act of a coward.
 

 A rat is a rat, and you chose his side. 

A rat is a concept manipulators use on stupid people to help them apply public peer pressure to others so they can keep getting away with abuse and thievery. 
 
If you want to keep buying into that B.S. like a sheeple be my guest, or maybe you can try to be a man and think for yourself.  
 
There is a difference between throwing someone under the bus (telling on them to protect yourself or worse telling on them for something that has nothing to do with you) and standing up for yourself.
 

This has nothing to do with being TWU or not, no matter how much you try to make it that

The hell it doesn't. This has EVERYTHING to do with the TWU. It has to do with the culture the TWU propagates.
 

 In case you can't tell, all of your preaching is falling on deaf ears.

That's funny because it seems some on here agree with me.
 
Keep helping people bully others, I would not want you to get marked with a social stigma for standing on your own two feet or anything.
 

 

[blue collar]

Yes, cowards.
 
Enabling a bullying is not the act of a man, it is the act of a coward.
 
A rat is a concept manipulators use on stupid people to help them apply public peer pressure to others so they can keep getting away with abuse and thievery. 
 
If you want to keep buying into that B.S. like a sheeple be my guest, or maybe you can try to be a man and think for yourself.  
 
There is a difference between throwing someone under the bus (telling on them to protect yourself or worse telling on them for something that has nothing to do with you) and standing up for yourself.
 
The hell it doesn't. This has EVERYTHING to do with the TWU. It has to do with the culture the TWU propagates.
 
That's funny because it seems some on here agree with me.
 
Keep helping people bully others, I would not want you to get marked with a social stigma for standing on your own two feet or anything.
 

I stand on my own two feet rather well. I can also walk with my head held high because I've never ratted. Those of us who are good workers will always have people willing and able to help us if our workload is too much to handle. Maybe there were a lack of people helping him because he was the opposite.
You are the one who came on here shooting off your mouth that those 6 were slugs and this guy is a hero without knowing ANY facts. You sound just like those fools on talk radio.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

You are the one who came on here shooting off your mouth that those 6 were slugs and this guy is a hero without knowing ANY facts.

I never said he was a hero, only that he got tired of putting up with the B.S. I said in my very first post it was wrong of him to tattle.
 
How much more do I need than a number of employees were walked off the job for sleeping? I can take that information and couple it with my past experience and put 2 and 2 together. Can you?
 
I guess I am totally off base, right? GMAFB!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2r7vULNVUwg

 

[blue collar]

I never said he was a hero, only that he got tired of putting up with the B.S. I said in my very first post it was wrong of him to tattle.
 
How much more do I need than a number of employees were walked off the job for sleeping? I can take that information and couple it with my past experience and put 2 and 2 together. Can you?
 
I guess I am totally off base, right? GMAFB!

You don't know all of the circumstances, do you? Is everything black and white to you, no grey area?
Does he truly have a tough workload or is he a whiner? Does his CC give him a tough workload because he never helps anyone else out?

 

[Overspeed]

Not mgmt. I have been a steward and the inevitable questions that come up when a person starts writing the crap out of an airplane is why wasn't it found before when you did the checks? The issue will be it's a job performance issue if it wasn't found before or it is a BS finding and it's job performance now. The work safe campaigns are a double edge sword. Do the job consistently per the manual and you cannot get screwed either way.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

Not mgmt. I have been a steward and the inevitable questions that come up when a person starts writing the crap out of an airplane is why wasn't it found before when you did the checks? The issue will be it's a job performance issue if it wasn't found before or it is a BS finding and it's job performance now. The work safe campaigns are a double edge sword. Do the job consistently per the manual and you cannot get screwed either way.

If management sends you on an in depth "discovery" mission they have no right to complain when you "discover" something.
 

You don't know all of the circumstances, do you?

I told you I could not care less what mechs do on their downtime, even if it is sleeping. Honestly, who cares about that crap?  The only time I really have a concern is if they are sleeping at someone else's (meaning a coworkers) expense all while spouting UNION propaganda about being one voice.. That is why I am having the reaction I am having. If I did not feel without a doubt these guys were running a scam and he turned them in to get revenge I would not even be on this thread because I would not care.
 
Surely this guy that turned them in knew once he did he would be marked. He knew he was going to have to pay a price for his actions. So he obviously felt it was worth it. If he felt it was worth it you have to ask what would illicit that sort of anger.
 

Is everything black and white to you, no grey area?

The only time there is a grey area is when politics or social graces are involved.  
 

Does he truly have a tough workload or is he a whiner?

He is a low seniority person in a UNION shop. Now ask again and try to phrase it to where you make yourself look a little less stupid.
 

 Does his CC give him a tough workload because he never helps anyone else out?

I think the other mechanics can manage to fluff their own pillows. 

 

[Overspeed]

If a person is assigned a check aren't they bound by the work instructions and criteria of that check?

 

[eolesen]

Does his CC give him a tough workload because he never helps anyone else out?

Point of order and/or sidebar...

If the workload CC is punishing one employee by giving him a harder workload, that's just the other side of the coin to a supervisor playing favorites.

One of the benefits of being union represented that I've heard repeatedly is how a contract protects you from favoritism or retribution, as this case may be.

How does giving one employee a tougher workload because of how they interact with others fit with that "blind equality" message?

 

[FWAAA]

Point of order and/or sidebar...

If the workload CC is punishing one employee by giving him a harder workload, that's just the other side of the coin to a supervisor playing favorites.

One of the benefits of being union represented that I've heard repeatedly is how a contract protects you from favoritism or retribution, as this case may be.

How does giving one employee a tougher workload because of how they interact with others fit with that "blind equality" message?

Favoritism or retribution is bad only when it's management playing favorites or exacting retribution.    If it's your union brother doing it to you, you're merely "paying your dues."    
 
If my union brothers and sisters slept thru their classes (the ones they're supposed to be teaching), they'd be fired, and our colleagues wouldn't bend over backwards trying to rationalize their sleeping on the job.