DL expands SEA further with SEA-SFO flights

[WorldTraveler]

NO, I am not delusional.  When adults display childish behavior, they invite being treated like adults.
 
Kev and others noted that I was committing the same error that I have accused others of regarding misspelling and punctuation.  E was able to recognize that accents aren't part of the English language but they were showing up in my posts so something must have been wrong. 
 
You, Kev, robbed and a few others couldn't accept my admission of a problem and my resolution of it.  You, like Kev, want to hold onto everything you can to use to beat someone over the head as many times as you can with it.
 
I fixed the problem but you aren't content to let it go.  And neither is Kev. 
 
That is either incredibly childish or demonstrates a complete lack of ability to forgive. 
 
I'm not sure I could even fill one hand with the number of times I have seen you two or robbed admit you are wrong, offer an apology, and be willing to accept forgiveness or to offer it to someone else.
 
The inability to forgive and accept forgiveness is precisely why the world is the relational disaster that it is today. 
 
You exist on this board by arguing with others and NEVER can admit when someone else is right.  NEVER. 
 
Yes, Kev has stated that he would stand with you if that is supposed to be praise.  However, I have repeatedly asked him to find the good in a situation and post it instead of his negativity and he has refused to do it. It isn't hard to praise someone who meets your needs - the two of you manage to work hand in hand in your DL bashing/union pushing efforts.  There are precious few people who can compliment someone who you stand to gain nothing from. Ironically, Kev translates my compliments into attempts at manipulation.  What does he think I expect to get from him or E?
 
If Kev or you or anyone else is insulted for being called out after displaying childish and confrontational behavior, then my suggestion is to crawl under a rock until you can figure out how to deal with the realities that are life, not the least of which is that you, me, and all of us screw up and need a fresh start every now and then. Be mature enough to admit it when it is your turn and allow others to do the same thing when it is their turn.
 
now, what say you on AS' schedule pulldowns at SEA?

 

[Kev3188]

Kev and others noted that I was committing the same error that I have accused others of regarding misspelling and punctuation.  E was able to recognize that accents aren't part of the English language but they were showing up in my posts so something must have been wrong.

Those two things are separate from one another.
 

You, Kev, robbed and a few others couldn't accept my admission of a problem and my resolution of it.  You, like Kev, want to hold onto everything you can to use to beat someone over the head as many times as you can with it.

No one gives a f**k if there are a few odd tildes or whatever in your posts. On a micro level, you were called out for doing exactly what you were belittling someone else for. On a macro scale, you were called out for stooping to conquer, and just being a douche in general. You can do better than that.

 

[Kev3188]

Delusional much?
 
You have insulted Kevin time after time after time.
 
And he has given out many compliments, to those that deserve them.

I can't remember; are we "labor losers," "trash," or both?

 

[700UW]

He has selective memory like a few other posters on here.
 
Funny on the UA thread he is touting Delta's ALPA efforts to stop Norwegian, what a hypocrite.
 
Low information posters, all we have to do is read the IAM thread where he flipped out about the charts and other info where he has insulted many.
 
Funny I thought the bible teaches not to insult and attack others.

 

[WorldTraveler]

Those two things are separate from one another.
 

No one gives a f**k if there are a few odd tildes or whatever in your posts. On a micro level, you were called out for doing exactly what you were belittling someone else for. On a macro scale, you were called out for stooping to conquer, and just being a douche in general. You can do better than that.

 
you can't see that the two are connected either because you don't understand computer and global languages or because you would rather fight and try to make someone else look like a fool.
 
Given that someone else was able to recognize that accents all of a sudden started appearing in my posts along with incorrect spelling, he was able to figure it out.
 
You're the one who looks like a fool trying to push an issue that someone else accurately figured out and which I acknowledged to be the issue - and which I have corrected. 
 

I can't remember; are we "labor losers," "trash," or both?

 
You are pushing a campaign which is not supported by your peers in numbers sufficiently large enough to elect the solution you think DL employees need.
 
but just like in this situation, you aren't mature enough to realize YOU are off the mark, figure out how to adapt, and move on.
 
You have spent five years trashing your employer, unable to post anything positive, and recruiting anyone you can to stand with you in your campaign.
 

He has selective memory like a few other posters on here.
 
Funny on the UA thread he is touting Delta's ALPA efforts to stop Norwegian, what a hypocrite.
 
Low information posters, all we have to do is read the IAM thread where he flipped out about the charts and other info where he has insulted many.
 
Funny I thought the bible teaches not to insult and attack others.

 
If you think the Bible teaches that unrepentant ignorance and deceit should be tolerated, you are in for a very rude surprise.
 
Like a whole lot of other things, you don't understand what the Bible actually says and pick out a few morsels that you think you can hang on to while missing the context and application as well as the big picture.
 
You posted data regarding FA compensation that you selectively harvested to try to make a point which, in fact, indicts the inability of unions to create the gains you say they can generate.
 
Exactly as I have noted here, you can't admit that your interpretation of the data was flawed but you continue to try to attack someone else when you can't admit that YOU are the one that either has no idea what the word AVERAGE actually means or you are trying to selectively use data to say one thing against someone but use the same data to mean something else in another context.
 
Either way, you, like Kev, are the ones who look like fools for continuing to push issues which everyone else has long since figured out and for failing to admit you are wrong. 
 
Do you have nothing to say about SEA or AS or my predictions that DL would succeed in its expansion while other carriers would back off of their attempts to neutralize DL's growth?

 

[700UW]

See Kevin, he is calling you names again,

 

[eolesen]

Hmm.. I see a lock coming in 3..... 2....

 

[robbedagain]

but wt your the one who NEVER ADMITS WHEN YOUR WRONG.      YOU have no idea what the flip is going on with the card drive..    as for dl build up at sea   as is responding to it too

 

[WorldTraveler]

Hmm.. I see a lock coming in 3..... 2....

yeah, I do too.  that is exactly why they are pushing the issue... sweep the issue under the rug again.
 
robbed,
I don't doubt there are cards coming in but they also expire.  Kev has been saying for years that there are cards coming in and a lot of interest in unionization... if it is there, then the votes will come and I have absolutely no problem with that. I really don't.

 

[Kev3188]

you can't see that the two are connected either because you don't understand computer and global languages or because you would rather fight and try to make someone else look like a fool.

Oh, I understand computers and global language quite well; that's why I didn't say word one about the accent marks and other items that popped up.

No, this is solely about you doing exactly what you attack others for. Plus, I'm a fan of irony.
 

You're the one who looks like a fool trying to push an issue that someone else accurately figured out and which I acknowledged to be the issue - and which I have corrected.

It's not me thrashing & wailing, but do continue.
 
 

You are pushing a campaign which is not supported by your peers in numbers sufficiently large enough to elect the solution you think DL employees need.

Those numbers are growing daily, in places even I thought they wouldn't. Time'll tell how it turns out.
 

 

You have spent five years trashing your employer, unable to post anything positive, and recruiting anyone you can to stand with you in your campaign.

...And like clockwork, here is the attempt at "framing." At least you're predictable.
 
 

Exactly as I have noted here, you can't admit that your interpretation of the data was flawed...

You sure maybe it's not YOU who is misinterpreting these flyers? It's possible, you know...
 

Either way, you, like Kev, are the ones who look like fools for continuing to push issues which everyone else has long since figured out and for failing to admit you are wrong.

Call me names from the stands all you want. It just validates what I said earlier about you becoming what you condemn.

It's okay, though. Do whatever makes you feel like you're still a part of the employee base here.
 

Do you have nothing to say about SEA or AS or my predictions that DL would succeed in its expansion while other carriers would back off of their attempts to neutralize DL's growth?

What difference would it make? You've turned yet another thread into a total sh*t show. Is this another attempt at a "ratings grab?"
 
 

See Keviñ, he is calling you names again,

It's a recurrent theme.

 

[Kev3188]

Hmm.. I see a lock coming in 3..... 2....

 
Lol.
 

but wt your the one who NEVER ADMITS WHEN YOUR WRONG.      YOU have no idea what the flip is going on with the card drive..    as for dl build up at sea   as is responding to it too

No he doesn't. But he'll keep bringing it up anyway. That's his version of distracting from the (latest) issue at hand.
 
 

yeah, I do too.  that is exactly why they are pushing the issue... sweep the issue under the rug again.
 
robbed,
I don't doubt there are cards coming in but they also expire.

Yes they do.

I'll be clearer. Cards- both re-siginings and new ones- continue to come in.

Better?

Kev has been saying for years that there are cards coming in and a lot of interest in unionization... if it is there, then the votes will come and I have absolutely no problem with that. I really don't.

Riiiiiiiight.

 

[700UW]

The data is quite clear, its states the source and what data was used.
 
It clearly states S A L A R Y, last time I checked profit sharing isnt a salary.

 

[WorldTraveler]

and yet you refuse to admit that the same law of averages BECAUSE OF GROWTH that has pushed US FAs DOWN the list is the same that hasn't allowed DL FA AVERAGES to be as high as it as AA and UA, two  carriers that haven't grown and the data in fact doesn't reflect the cuts which AA employees have taken in BK.  
 
I didn't say that profit sharing is a part of salary but it is a part of compensation... something the AS FAs count on as part of their compensation even though IAM's data shows them at the bottom of the list.
 
No, Kev, I am simply expecting you and 700 to be honest and complete in your arguments.  700 refuses to acknowledge that profit sharing is a key part of compensation and include, mostly because AA and US employees largely walked away from it.
 
Too bad their unions didn't have the foresight to realize that the whole purpose of consolidation was to increase profitability.
 
And I have NO PROBLEM if DL employees actually vote for a union.  But we've heard you drone on for years about this ground swell of support for unions - and yet not a single vote has been called.  It's time to poop or get off the pot.
 
I am calling you on the carpet for your juvenile behavior regarding an obvious browser issue.  You perceived that accents were appearing in English but didn't bother to try to connect anything?
 
Again, you and 700 suffer from the exact same problem of being  unable to admit you are wrong.  someone else recognized the problem and yet you CONTINUE to try to recognize that there is a difference between human error and machine error.  I took responsibility for my machine errors and fixed them.
 
You and 700 can't admit when you are wrong or that someone else is right.  For that reason, YOUR DL peers view you and 700 with jaundiced eyes in your attempts to convince them of the validity of the union.
 
Your spelling and grammar may be some of the best on the board but your inability to admit you are wrong when you are renders worthless all of the beauty of what you write.
 
meanwhile, DL's hub at SEA continues to grow

 

[700UW]

Profit sharing is not a key item in compensation at all.
 
Salary, benefits and pension are way more important than profit sharing.
 
What happens when there is no profit?
 
What happens when the profit sharing is cut by 33% without any input or choice by the employees?
 
The flyer clearly states salary, is that too hard for you to comprehend?

 

[robbedagain]

Correct me if im wrong  but I believe the profit sharing is one time and comes once a yr IF and only IF the company makes money in all 4 quarters  or at least 3 of the 4 quarters  so wt therefore the fact is profit sharing is not included in the salary bec its a one time thing