Did Lombardo ok this?

[Rogallo]

Comprehension is obviously not your strong suit.

 
 

Ain't that the truth?

 

[MCI transplant]

Damn!!!------ It's good to be on the outside looking in!!!!

 

[NYer]

"Local 591" legally means all the members that belong to that Local.

Hence the way the suit is written, "Local 591... ... ... and its representatives"

Comprehension is obviously not your strong suit.

 
I know you guys have to make an appearance of something being done, but it's not just there. The relief sought in the lawsuit does not pertain to the maintenance issues or the Members. It is plain as day.
 
then in order to address those issues, these are the injunction sought by the suit:
 
A.."Restraining and enjoining AA, its officers, agents, employees and all persons acting on its behalf from engaging in any discipline, threats of discipline, staff reductions or threats thereof, or other forms of harassment designed to influence or interfere with its Mechanics and Related Employees' selection of a collective bargaining representative."
 

That has nothing to do with the maintenance situation but with the selection of a CBA. 1 down, 2 to go.​

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B.."Restraining and enjoining AA, its officers, agents, employees and all persons acting on its behalf from disciplining, threatening with discipline, arresting, threatening with arrest, surveilling, or otherwise threatening or harassing Local 591 union representatives engaged in union representation activities."
 
That refers to union representatives in their course of representing, doesn't mention Members. 2 down, 1 to go
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C.."Ordering AA, its officers, agents, employees and all persons acting on its behalf to treat with Local 591 and its representatives with respect to complaints of harassment and coercion complaints related to AMT adherence to FAA/IAW maintenance standards."
 
Again, this mentions the Local and its representatives, not the Members. But let's take your argument that by referencing Local 591 it also means the Members then why are 4 591 Officers mentioned separately as Plaintiffs. If your argument is correct, they wouldn't need to be mentioned since they're covered by the blanket Local 591.
 
...but let's look a little further...
 
The distinction of the Local and its Members are very prominent in the rest of the lawsuit....such as:
 
1--..."injunctive relief, and other appropriate relief to halt the interference of American Airlines, Inc. (AA) with the plaintiffs’ efforts to represent their members..." (a separation of plaintiffs and their members)
 
2--"AA management representatives have responded to the plaintiffs’ efforts to represent their members..." (again, a separation of plaintiffs and their members)
 
So in two examples from the first pages of the complaint, it clearly shows the separation of the Plaintiffs and their Members. Shall I continue?

 

[FWAAA]

So in two examples from the first pages of the complaint, it clearly shows the separation of the Plaintiffs and their Members. Shall I continue?

Sure. Get some friends and more shovels, and keep digging. When someone ignorant displays that for all to see, who are we to discourage it?

 

[Rogallo]

Ignorant TWU lackeys!  No wonder we're always getting screwed!

 

[WeAAsles]

Attacking the poster for his position or valid points of view does not help you in winning the argument. Especially important since this may wind up going before a court of law.

 

[Rogallo]

I'm so sorry lackey! 

 

[WeAAsles]

I'm so sorry lackey! 

Point proven. Fine job.

Would love to read what FWAA thinks since he actually is a lawyer and knows how to give an intelligent opinion? At least he has in the past.

 

[Rogallo]

Thank You!

 

[AANOTOK]

The depth of immaturity in SOME of those who's job it is to keep our planes in the sky is mind boggling, if not down right scary.

 

[FWAAA]

Would love to read what FWAA thinks since he actually is a lawyer and knows how to give an intelligent opinion? At least he has in the past.

I posted my opinion in posts #41 and #44. toroshark's post in #39 was a very well written rebuttal to the nonsense that the complaint doesn't ask for the proper relief.

Glenn Quagmire's posts in #55 and #60 more than covered (in very clear and well-written fashion) NYer's ridiculous and repetitious criticism of the complaint.

 

[Rogallo]

I rest my case!  

 

[WeAAsles]

I posted my opinion in posts #41 and #44. toroshark's post in #39 was a very well written rebuttal to the nonsense that the complaint doesn't ask for the proper relief.Glenn Quagmire's posts in #55 and #60 more than covered (in very clear and well-written fashion) NYer's ridiculous and repetitious criticism of the complaint.

Alright but this one item that NYer brought up does interest me.

" influence or interfere with its Mechanics and Related Employees' selection of a collective bargaining representative."

Actually he said that the issue was about selection of a CBA when it states "Collective bargaining representative"

Is there an assumption that the company has or is going to attempt to interfere in that choice for representation? Why is that in the complaint when it seems like that has nothing to do with the major issues that were brought up in the complaint?

 

 

[WeAAsles]

I'm not a lawyer. Educate me?

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

Alright but this one item that NYer brought up does interest me.

" influence or interfere with its Mechanics and Related Employees' selection of a collective bargaining representative."

Actually he said that the issue was about selection of a CBA when it states "Collective bargaining representative"

Is there an assumption that the company has or is going to attempt to interfere in that choice for representation? Why is that in the complaint when it seems like that has nothing to do with the major issues that were brought up in the complaint?

 

 
Perhaps those being harassed are advocates for representation other than the alliance.
 
If those individuals are being singled out by the company, it makes perfect sense.