Dan Cunnigham - Return To Work

[Bill]

I've been wondering about ole Danny Boy. It took 18 months? I give him 3 more and he'll be back out. No doubt it will be over something as stupid as it was last time.

 

[Bob Owens]

During Bobby Gless's deposition he mentioned, with glee I might add, that Dan Cunningham was fired. I guess he is not so happy today.

 

[Bob Owens]

Also a note of interest.

AA Legal was so desperate during the hearings that they actually resorted to pulling copies of grievances Cunningham had filed in the past and claimed he was using the grieveance procedure to "harass" the company.

The Arbitrator quickly asked how an employee could use an Article and Procedure agreed to in the Labor Contract to "harass" the company. Think about that will ya, how desperate one must be to throw an arguement such as that into the testimony.

Yet, without hesitation continue to ignore the Arbitrators plea to settle the case and prevent the written opinion.

I about choked laughing when I heard this the first time.

I think someone with pull in the company should investigate the Legal Department and Greg Formella and verify that this is the direction AA wants to spend resources and cash during times of difficulty.

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We saw the company's pitiful tactics when they tried to get the injunction back in 2001 after they locked out the passengers and declared a job action by the mechanics.

Clearly they dont care about wasting the stockholders (our) money on frivolous lawsuits.

In this case I think the company and the unions intent was to keep Dan out as long as possible in order to cause him hardship. Not only to try and teach Dan a lesson but to deter others from following Dans example of exercising union orientated free speech. Thats why Dan should pursue a lawsuit against both parties. Being made financially whole is insufficient and would not prevent or deter the company and the union from doing this again and again and again.

If the sum was large enough we could have no doubt that they, the company and the union would turn on each other. (For a change.)

 

[Bob Owens]

I've been wondering about ole Danny Boy.  It took 18 months? I give him 3 more and he'll be back out.  No doubt it will be over something as stupid as it was last time.

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You're right he was fired over something stupid, but that was the company's doing not Dan's.

 

[local 12 proud]

I've been wondering about ole Danny Boy. It took 18 months? I give him 3 more and he'll be back out. No doubt it will be over something as stupid as it was last time.

[post="297575"][/post]​

18 months vacation with full pay, being able to show how pathetic the twu/aa really are!....PRICELESS

 

[Hackman]

I've been wondering about ole Danny Boy. It took 18 months? I give him 3 more and he'll be back out. No doubt it will be over something as stupid as it was last time.

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That's the difference between standing up for your rights like a man, or cowering to the man like a spineless jellyfish.

3 months? Took them 15 years for this one.

Want to wager some cash on the total empty bottle count during the serious twu booze guzzling marathon (more than usual) that will occur over a 30 day period after the transcripts come out?

DUI count?

Wife beatings?

Nye, I didn't think so. :huh:

 

[NewHampshire Black Bears]

This is "priceless", NO, actually their IS a $$$ Price

For you guys and gals, who were around in 1987, especially on the east coast, you'll probably remember the Infamous "Lets get rid of the hard core anti company troublemakers in (mostly) A/F in Boston"

AA/BOS management "hand picked" these guys, even though they knew "everyone" on the shift, was leaving early !!

The guys IMMEDIATELY refused the TWU's lawyers, and PAID for there own outside attorney.

While on the "stand", being questioned by the Arbitrator, a 25 year guy, (who we'll refer to as MR-N) was asked; ..........."Mr-N, what time did your shift start" ??

(Mr-N) "6 am"..................."We have photographs of you working in a parking lot between 8-4:30, 5 days a week" !!

(Mr-N) "Yes, thats correct" !..................."How is it possible that you were on the clock at AA, at 6am, and at the parking lot from 8-4:30, 5 days a week ??

(Mr-N) "Thats easy, I left at 7:30am every day" !...................."How long had you been doing that(leaving 6 1/2 hours early, every day) ???

(Mr-N) "10 YEARS" !!............................"10 YEARS, you mean to say that you LEFT 6 1/2 hours EARLY, FOR 10 STRAIGHT YEARS" ?????

(Mr-N) "YUP" !....................................... "What did your supervisors do, when you left, I mean, did they know you were gone" ?????

(Mr-N) "Nothing, I mean they saw me leave, and get into my car, and drive off" !!
..........................................."This is Totally UNBELIEVABLE. You mean to say, that your supervisors WATCHED you LEAVE, and KNEW you were no longer on the A/F floor, until 6am, the next morning" ??

(Mr-N) "YES Sir" !!


The Arbitrator awarded ALL those fired, for leaving EARLY, while on the clock, due to AA's FAILURE to Manage It's business.(In other words, for "CONDONEING" this type of behavior. More commonly calle,

"PAST PRACTICE" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"You GO, AA"


NH/BB's

 

[eolesen]

Cunningham decision

This is the short version, I should have the full decision, 35 pages, soon.

[post="297570"][/post]​

Short version? This is nothing more than a cover sheet with the same info already known...

 

[AMFAMAN]

Short version? This is nothing more than a cover sheet with the same info already known...

[post="298045"][/post]​

Should have the real deal next week.

 

[NewHampshire Black Bears]

Former moderAAtor,

"E",

What did/do you think about the MAJOR LEAGUE FIASCO (aka) The 1987 (attempted by AA) BOSTON MASSACRE ??

NH/BB's

 

[eolesen]

What did/do you think about the MAJOR LEAGUE FIASCO (aka) The 1987 (attempted by AA) BOSTON MASSACRE ??

[post="298425"][/post]​

I think y'all wax poetic about "the good old days" a little too much.

This was over 20 years ago, before Autota, and now, biometric timeclocks.

Plus, I think HR has lost count of the number of people successfully fired after being caught on videotape working a second job while either on the clock or out on a supposed IOD. One of my favorite examples is a FSC working as a bricklayer while also out on a back injury. Now, if you can move a wheelbarrow full of morter or lift bricks by the dozen, then what prevents you from working the bag room?

 

[PlayTheOdds]

This is "priceless", NO, actually their IS a $$$ Price     

The Arbitrator awarded ALL those fired, for leaving EARLY, while on the clock, due to AA's FAILURE to Manage It's business.(In other words, for "CONDONEING" this type of behavior.              More commonly calle,

"PAST PRACTICE"  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"You GO, AA"
NH/BB's

[post="298029"][/post]​

You people actually condone this type of behavior? You think it is OK for a union to force a company to keep an employee that hasn't worked for ten years. This type of mentality is why the unions are going to be slapped down one by one.

 

[boxer]

PTO
How did you develop your deep hatred for unions? Is it passed from generation to generation, like racism?

 

[PlayTheOdds]

I came to this forum and read these posts here.

 

[j7915]

You people actually condone this type of behavior? You think it is OK for a union to force a company to keep an employee that hasn't worked for ten years. This type of mentality is why the unions are going to be slapped down one by one.

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That is why the turnstyles in Tulsa are computer monitored. To give the Co. ammunition to terminate employees. For security purposes, those gates would only have to allow monitored emtry, and freewheel to exit.

Many years ago, there was an experiment to eliminate time clocks. It was stopped when the dock testing it, left earlier and earlier. There went the ability to cover a delay in getting to work and making up time, and no records kept.

People are their own worst enemy, and amts seem to be more blatantly self-destructive than others.