CWA Files for Representation Election

[usa1]

Hang in there!

The election will eventually take place.
And all AA Management has done with this charade is assure a victory for the CWA.

According to present law ... if this merger goes forward now the CWA will no longer represent US Airways or American Airlines customer service employees ... they will be the only unrepresented group in the merger.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/14/amr-union-idUSL1E8HE0IV20120614

 

[john john]

.. they will be the only unrepresented group in the merger.

http://www.reuters.c...E8HE0IV20120614

Some posters on here think the agents will be better off with the “hundreds of others in a half dozen job classifications who aren't considered management and aren't in an agent classification.”​

the ARP workgroup has been tasked with reducing annual employee costs by 20 percent, or $95 million.​

Overview of Airport/Cargo and Travel Center (CTO) Plan

http://www.restructuringamr.com/our-people-arp-aa.asp​

Who is going to watch and over see the agents operational restructuring and implementation of business plan.

 

[jimntx]

Actually, if DL-NW merger is any indication, there will be a mandatory representation election since one group (current LCC) is represented and one is not (AA). It is the same as if both were already represented, but by different unions. I agree that the company's latest actions will just guarantee a union-represented agent group in the post-merger world.

 

[john john]

Actually, if DL-NW merger is any indication, there will be a mandatory representation election since one group (current LCC) is represented and one is not (AA). It is the same as if both were already represented, but by different unions. I agree that the company's latest actions will just guarantee a union-represented agent group in the post-merger world.

% of class and craft, union and non-union has to be determined for a vote to take place.You think if there is a vote that AA will challenge the NMB decision ​

 

[usa1]

If I have it straight, current laws say you go with what the larger airline has in place at time of merger no matter who buys who ... in this case AA is non-union so that will prevail. Even if there is a vote later, the damage will be done before a new one can be certified?

 

[eolesen]

I don't think you've got it right. Previous law was that if 35% of a class or craft were represented by a union, there'd be an election.

NW had enough to force elections. TW did not. Now that the law is 50% interest, it's unlikely there'd be an automatic election.

 

[eolesen]

Thats a blatant RLA violate by AA, wonder how much they paid the judge!

Isn't it amazing how the judge is always paid off when a ruling goes in the company's favor?...

 

[Bob Owens]

Isn't it amazing how the judge is always paid off when a ruling goes in the company's favor?...

What was the law when they filed? If they met the standard when they filed then they met the standard.

 

[700UW]

AA saying they would be harmed if an election occurred is BS, seriously?

 

[Deleted member 17588]

By filing this lawsuit, AA is only sowing the ground for an abundant crop of anger and backlash from the agents. This will only strengthen the agents' resolve to unionize and have a voice in their futures and work conditions. The vote has merely been delayed but has definitely not been cancelled.

 

[eolesen]

What was the law when they filed? If they met the standard when they filed then they met the standard.

I guess the judge (appointed to the federal bench in 1991) isn't as up on labor law as you are, Bob. Or maybe he really does see that there's enough doubt over which standard to apply that he issued the temporary injunction and scheduled the hearing for next week...

"Means found that American was likely to prevail in a lawsuit challenging criteria used by the National Mediation Board, or NMB, to permit the vote. The agency overseeing union balloting had asked Means to dismiss the complaint."

 

[FWAAA]

Judges never decide cases in accordance with the facts and the law when you lose; if the judge decides in your favor, then justice was served. If the decision goes against you, the other side bought off the judge.

 

[chris perry]

Means may have issued a stay ,but didn't American violate the law bye not providing the list requested? Another example of stalling.

 

[FWAAA]

Means may have issued a stay ,but didn't American violate the law bye not providing the list requested? Another example of stalling.

If AA wins on the merits, then delay in providing the list won't result in any harm.

If AA loses, and the CWA is successful at organizing the agents, then the CWA can represent the agents when they negotiate their first contract, which will likely be after AA emerges from Ch 11. Additionally, if US is successful with its planned takeover, then the CWA can get their vote at that time.

The agents had no contract to abrogate under section 1113 when AA filed for Ch 11 and thus, AA can unilaterally modify their terms of employment.

The CWA seeks to delay AA's restructuring by arguing otherwise.

 

[usa1]

The agents had no contract to abrogate under section 1113 when AA filed for Ch 11 and thus, AA can unilaterally modify their terms of employment.

FWAAA are you happy about this? ..... Would you like to see the C/S group in BK slashed ... more than yours? Some people want their co-worker's to take a greater hit, so they won't get hit as hard? Is that you? Just asking?