I have been asking as many agents as possible about the vote. NOT one has voted NO because they see their jobs are getting outsourced slowly at a time. They also see that having a union will allow some kind of voice to be heard during these troubling times. They are fed up just like the rest of the union represented employees at American. The Agents deal with union employees everyday. Pilots, Aircraft Mechanics, Flight Attendants, Rampers and facility maintenance. Hopefully enough of them will vote in union representation.
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I have been asking as many agents as possible about the vote. NOT one has voted NO because they see their jobs are getting outsourced slowly at a time. They also see that having a union will allow some kind of voice to be heard during these troubling times. They are fed up just like the rest of the union represented employees at American. The Agents deal with union employees everyday. Pilots, Aircraft Mechanics, Flight Attendants, Rampers and facility maintenance. Hopefully enough of them will vote in union representation.
Line maintenance excluded of course. Delta Line mechanics came out of BK better than both AA and US Line Mechanics.
How many non-union workgroups have been thru major airline bankruptcies? My point is that the sample size is very small.
In addition to Bob Owens' excellent example, what about DL flight attendants? Immediately following the DL and NW bankruptcies, they made more money than US flight attendants. How many other nonunion workgroups were there? DL's fleet service and agents? Maybe they fared worse than most represented fleet and agents at the other airlines. AA's agents? Dunno how their bankruptcy wages and benefits compare to the unionized agents at other airlines.
US pilots make less than nonunion jetBlue pilots (on similar equipment). AA's mechanics make less than nonunion jetBlue mechanics. There may be other examples.
Looks like mixed results to me.
By what measure? Head count reduction? Wage cut ($)? Wage cut (% reduction)? Work rule changes? It's easy to cherry pick facts and statistics to support your desired conclusion.
I remember immediately following emergence DL gave their FAs significant raises, restored benefits and work rule improvements. Of course you will counter this saying they did so to fend off AFA, and the unions were not happy DL did right by their workers the unions would rather villify DL and ensure any gains for employees are achieved through the collective bargaining process. You repeatedly justify the steep concessions and industry lagging agreements at IAM-represented carriers with "we had three rounds of concessions in two bankruptcies" non-sense, well so did DL and somehow they have a higher standing in the industry than many of their unionized counterparts at other carriers.
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In 2003, agents took the smallest paycut of any workgroup. So far, they've seen the fewest changes in bankruptcy. But those facts seem to be overlooked by all the union hyperbole.
A week from now we'll know the results. And don't forget that airport agents are half the equation. Call centers were holdouts in the previous election, and they've seen relatively few cuts as well over time. TUS, CRO and ERO closed, but that was due to dropping call volume, something that the union can't prevent.
A week from now we'll know the results. And don't forget that airport agents are half the equation. Call centers were holdouts in the previous election, and they've seen relatively few cuts as well over time. TUS, CRO and ERO closed, but that was due to dropping call volume, something that the union can't prevent.
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