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He is the chairperson for my group M&R. That`s a red flag and completely unacceptable. Period. Full stop.700UW said:He isn't chairing negotiations, that would be the IAM for the first two years.
Rogallo said:Yep, first things first. The industrial unions have to figure out who gets all our dues money first.
Then it's time to look out for the members!
I got mine!
I beg to differ. I am sure there are many a contractual issue that the company wishes were gone. To get free reign over how we work might be quite a shock to some. if people think they're all of a sudden going to Delta wages without Delta work rules, they'd better think again.eolesen said:Yeah, you might find out that there's no difference... Worst case, you have a new representation election in a year.
700UW said:The should be meeting at the William W Wipinsinger Education and Technology Center at Placid Harbor, MD.
This isnt the TWU and the IAM negotiating separately with AA, its the Association and the IAM is the lead for the first two years.
bikeguy said:OK great the committee teams have been picked.
What else has been done?
Have we got everything lined up to join the contracts? As far as what are we going to ask for in negotiations.
Are we going pension or 401k?
What overtime system are we going to use LUS or LAA?
Are we going to bid jobs like we do now at US or are we going to use a transfer list like AA?
This list can go on and on, Seems these guys got a lot of work to do and we have not gotten any update on none of it.
They asked for contract proposals what was the result of that? maybe a top ten list of the results.
Seems everything is a secret and there is a lack of communication to the guys on the floor.
We the AMT's need to have everything in order BEFORE we get to the table.
The last time this teAAm had non-union mechanics working for them was NWA. Need I say more? We do not want to be non-union, especially with these guys.MetalMover said:Delta mechanics seem to do good with no union. But they have always been non union. For us to suddenly go non union...well, let your imagination run wild as to what might happen.
According to Sean Doyle, stores didn't get anything extra. Everyone had a cost neutral contract. Since stores got improvements everywhere in their contract and lost nothing, it appears AMTs funded stores improvements with the loss of a week of vacation. They claim stores got a 1.5% less raise but then they awarded them skill pay (equal to 1.5%) for a skill that is not identifiable. Doyle is on board with this stuff. Anyone who would lie about that stuff like he does is dangerous. Lombardo's stooge is what he is. He has no business being in the room for AMT negotiations. I promise you he will screw our ears off.Bob Owens said:The last time this teAAm had non-union mechanics working for them was NWA. Need I say more? We do not want to be non-union, especially with these guys.
Appointing a guy from Fleet is a big disappointment. Nothing against Sean but he should not be there, let the three Presidents pick who they want as Chair.
No matter how they spin it having a FSC as our Chair is unacceptable. The Chair is always the most powerful in the room, they pick who speaks, and they have the last word before every vote. Look at stores, they did better than any other group because they threw Don out and picked one of their own to Chair their committee, Steve Gukelberger, and they ended up coming out of BK with their work rules pretty much intact (CC by Seniority) , more Vacation than us, Longevity, no loss of half pay for the first two days out sick, even won a skill premium they never had before and second in pay to WN not bottom of the industry like us.
OldGuy@AA said:According to Sean Doyle, stores didn't get anything extra. Everyone had a cost neutral contract. Since stores got improvements everywhere in their contract and lost nothing, it appears AMTs funded stores improvements with the loss of a week of vacation. They claim stores got a 1.5% less raise but then they awarded them skill pay (equal to 1.5%) for a skill that is not identifiable. Doyle is on board with this stuff. Anyone who would lie about that stuff like he does is dangerous. Lombardo's stooge is what he is. He has no business being in the room for AMT negotiations. I promise you he will screw our ears off.