CLT-GRU gone?

[WorldTraveler]

I concur, CLT is the perfect growth environment for O&D as well CONX to augment AA's new route structure. You will not recognize CLT in a few years!

"not recognize" in a positive sense?

Help us understand how CLT doesn't support ANY flights to S. America but another hub in the same region by another airline supports around ten to a dozen per day.

What are the int'l growth markets you expect to see at CLT if it doesn't include S. America?

 

[700UW]

And neither does SLC, CVG, DTW, LGA, now do they? CLT has been a hub for EA, PI, US and now the new AA. It seems to have been making money for years before SA flights and will still make money for the new AA.

 

[flybynite]

We, as flight attendants, have been very disappointed about this. However, we do understand this is being driven by equipment realignment. Now, having said that...it may be flown by CLT F/As once we have been qualified on the 777. In fact, that is our understanding for the time being.

 

[roabilly]

There is only one way to determine whose crystal ball is the clearest, and that is to revisit these arguments and comments in three to five years, or as growth/reduction news for AAL KCLT is released. I have plenty of time, and I saved the opinions in this forum regarding KCLT for future reference.
 
We have nothing to lose but credibility!

 

[flybynite]

I think we shall continue to have South American flights out of CLT. It may be a through flight out of MIA...but we will continue to have them.

 

[AirwAr]

I think we shall continue to have South American flights out of CLT. It may be a through flight out of MIA...but we will continue to have them.

 
You consider a through flight as continuing to have service?  Ok...now you guys are stretching it a bit.

 

[flybynite]

Let's not be snarky....okay? 
 
We've had no problem filling the flights out of CLT. This is about equipment realighnment.

 

[FWAAA]

I think we shall continue to have South American flights out of CLT. It may be a through flight out of MIA...but we will continue to have them.

You mean like an A321 CLT-MIA carries the same flight number as the 777 to Brazil or Argentina?   Of course that will happen, but that's hardly the same thing as nonstop flights from CLT to South America.   The first CLT-LHR flight was operated the same way in reverse.   US obtained the AA/BA slot that was to be used for MIA-LHR service, and US routed it as a one-stop via CLT with change of plane.   

 

[AirwAr]

They did add CLT-LHR.  It seems during mergers (No. 3 for me) people enjoy seeing others' lives destroyed. This American bunch is particularly notorious. 

 
Since you quoted my post...I'm assuming this "American bunch" is referring to us AA'ers posting here.  Just to let you know...I don't see any joy in destroying lives...but I do see joy in being right.  And that's all this is...an educated, or in some cases, uneducated guessing about what's going to happen.
 
The reality is...what has changed that you US'ers believe CLT will see all this magical growth from?  You going to magically steal it paxs ATL...doubtful.  MIA going to give up direct flights and use CLT...hardly.  PHL/JFK going to funnel pax through CLT to international...NOT.
 
Let's look at the flip side.  Will PMUS be funneling more paxs to MIA for South America / Caribbean  flights...absolutely.  Will CLT lose direct flights to Star hubs in EU...probably.  Could additional flights be added to southeast cities from PHL & MIA to overfly CLT...absolutely.
 
Time will tell.

 

[FWAAA]

Let's not be snarky....okay? 
 
We've had no problem filling the flights out of CLT. This is about equipment realighnment.

At low enough fares, you can fill any plane to just about anywhere.   Charlotte has lost its flights to Brazil because of the very low O&D between Charlotte and Brazil.   Period.   US employees have said that many of the passengers on the GIG and GRU flights were Brazilians flying to MCO.   No need to fly them all the way north to CLT only to fly them south back to MCO when MIA is on the way, and MIA also features significantly more O&D than CLT.     
 
What is "equipment realignment?"  

 

[AirwAr]

Let's not be snarky....okay? 
 
We've had no problem filling the flights out of CLT. This is about equipment realighnment.

 
What's snarky about my post?
 
All I'm doing is asking you to be honest.  Only to a first time traveler is a "through" flight, where you change planes, is considered better than a connection.  To anyone else...it's a connection.

 

[flybynite]

It's called a Boeing 777 out of MIA. Which US doesn't have.
 
Now having said that..we can fly peeps in from all of our bases into Mia...PHX, PHL, DCA & CLT.
 
And if you don't know what an equipment realignment is...then you don't work for an airline and you wasting my time.

 

[AirwAr]

It's called a Boeing 777 out of Mia. Which US doesn't have.
 
Now having said that..we can fly peeps in from all of our bases into Mia...PHX, PHL, DCA & CLT.
 
And if you don't know what an equipment realignment is...then you don't work for an airline and you wasting my time.

 
so you're saying that CLT losing GIG/GRU was equipment realignment and not hub rationalization?  And that providing a through flight is the equivalent of direct service?

 

[flybynite]

Yes, I am.
 
Do I like it? No...I do not.
 
However, people or passengers don't "get" the difference like we do. They are just trying to get there. They will see one flight number and they will be good with that.
 
It is what it is.

 

[FWAAA]

It's called a Boeing 777 out of MIA. Which US doesn't have.
 
Now having said that..we can fly peeps in from all of our bases into Mia...PHX, PHL, DCA & CLT.
 
And if you don't know what an equipment realignment is...then you don't work for an airline and you wasting my time.

So you're of the misguided opinion that CLT-GRU was surrendered because US doesn't have any 777s?   Ok.
 
I sincerely apologize for "wasting" your precious time.   GFYSB.