Class Action Against Siegel's 4.5 Million

[EyeInTheSky]

usfliboi, it's in all of our contracts that we are to be paid a certain amount, have work rules, vacation, sick leave, benefits, etc. Yet, that didn't stop Siegel from violating and taking away from our contracts. fliboi like it or not you stand to gain from those who put their balls out there to demand changes.

 

[mweiss]

I have been on many flights lately and never seen a F/A do anything.

Well, I can't speak for your experience, but I took a US flight from SFO to PIT yesterday, and the FAs were attentive and friendly.

'Course, maybe it's because I was sharing SFO restaurant tips with them.

 

[Smartest Loser]

It was in his contract...... our union leaders approved in on the board..... give it to him and dare any of our union leaders to bark.

I too have a contract...the company doesn't seem to have a problem breaking it and not honoring parts of it...!! :angry:

The question is, How does the company give a person 4.5 million and then go around and tell other groups the must give concessions..?? They seem to find money when they want to.

Or, we can look at it this way...4.5 million divided by 30,000 employees..All of us just gave 150 bucks towards getting rid of him. LOL

News Flash... Just heard Mr. Lakefield is labor friendly...!!!!

 

[USFlyer]

You got what you wanted -- Siegel is gone (and most likely fired). He negotiated the $4.5 million and the BOD approved it. Heck, in the company I work for the CEO had a $20 million parachute yet our revenue was 1/7 US's. And we laid off 22 percent of our work force as well. It's not worth fighting it ... be happy he's gone and look to the future.

 

[geo1004]

Bronner pulled Dave aside, cleared his throat and and showed him the door. It became obvious that Dave wasn't the guy that any of the labor groups would deal with. No deal, no Dave. He's gone now and he's taking his compensation with him. I wish labor better luck with the next guy.

 

[usfliboi]

people people people give it a rest hes gone and some of you wanted it.!!!! Find something else to complain about like bronner or find something about our new boss to complain about ! GEES i know you will

 

[Fubijaakr]

No lawsuit.

Its a waste of time and money. And USAir ALPA can't afford to waste a penny on an idiotic lawsuit like this. Preserve your resources for more important functions like Family Support, Negotiating Committee, etc.

You're going to need every cent to fight the fight.

Believe me, this battle's going to be a doozi.

 

[AnalyzeThis]

Correct me if I am wrong, but the Unions insisted on their
contracts being followed, so Mr. Siegel is asking the same,
pay what's in his contract. As some here would say, "full pay
to the last day".

I wish US Airways the best, I am a loyal customer and would hate
to see the carrier go the way of Eastern, TWA, Pan Am and many
other great carriers.

Forget the past and move on. US Airways has all the right pieces
to be successful, everyone just needs to play nice together.

I realize this will not be a popular post so don't worry about blasting
back at me, I am going out of town for two weeks (flying US) and
will not be looking at this board.

Best to you all.

 

[ClueByFour]

Correct me if I am wrong, but the Unions insisted on their
contracts being followed, so Mr. Siegel is asking the same,
pay what's in his contract. As some here would say, "full pay
to the last day".

The flipside to that is that US has not honored some of the union contracts, so why not keep the 4.5 million (which US could really use at this point) and make Siegel go to court to get it?

 

[High Iron]

AnalyzeThis spake:

Correct me if I am wrong, but the Unions insisted on their
contracts being followed

An odd concept eh? All the grievances and litigation seem to indicate quite a list of contract violations.

so Mr. Siegel is asking the same,
pay what's in his contract

Asking for others to honor what he refused to do?

As some here would say, "full pay
to the last day"

Yeah....and? Perfectly sensible for him and yet confoundingly obtuse for others? In a way you've painted yourself into a corner; In an attempt at sarcasm, you unwittingly validated the "full pay to the last day" argument so sneered at here.

I wish US Airways the best, I am a loyal customer and would hate
to see the carrier go the way of Eastern, TWA, Pan Am and many
other great carriers

I get nostalgiac too, but what's going to happen has been planned for some time.

Forget the past and move on

Easy to say, less easier to live. In any case, it's not about the past...it's about the future, and it aint pretty. "The past" merely serves as a template for what can be expected....and again, it aint pretty. Table talk is great if it's not you falling on a sword for some abstract and very vague "greater good".

US Airways has all the right pieces
to be successful, everyone just needs to play nice together

Well they had all the right pieces. Too many branches pruned to feed the roots. Everyone "playing nice" is an abstraction hiding a very ugly outcome. All the furloughed people will be cheering rah-rah from the sidelines I'm sure...as are those few left at the virtual airline envisioned.

I realize this will not be a popular post so don't worry about blasting
back at me

Hit and run? How convenient. It'll still be here, perhaps even "bumped" to the top after a couple of weeks?

I am going out of town for two weeks (flying US) and
will not be looking at this board

Maybe you may not see the replies but it doesn't make refutations of your post any less valid....nor yours any more so.

Best to you all

I belive you're sincere, but the present course of events may change the effect to "best to some of you"....anybody left that is.

 

[PITbull]

I think it's clear Siegel was, in essence, fired.

I personally believe he was fired. The $4.5 million is a contractual benefit, whether we like it or lump it....its his contractual right to take.

Just as our contractual rights we fight to have honored. Those provisions are not protestable.

I don't believe Siegel elected to walk. I have strong suspecions he was forced.

I do know he will be helping Lakefield transition. Lakefield I don't have any opinion. And I don't think the guy has a clue. He will be relying on Dave's team to teach him RASMs and CASMs the quick study method...take, take, and take some more from the employees.

The "going forward plan" is the same plan Lakefield will present.


I hope this guy knows the definition of "negotiation". Time will tell if all Corporate Execs run in the same Club. Their track record "SUCKS"!

 

[AP Tech]

It was in his contract...... our union leaders approved in on the board..... give it to him and dare any of our union leaders to bark. The fact they pretend like there in the dark about all of this is outrageous. They knew about it and now we wanna believe they are surprised? NOT!

Hey fliboi.........Yes the 4.5 mil was in his contract and it was approved by the MAJORITY of the BOD. I did not read where the union reps voted in favor for the package. Just a quick question that should make sense to any moron.....If Bronner controls the majority of seats on the BOD does it even matter if our union reps even attend the meetings? Let me see if I control 75% of the board members and it takes 51% for any measure to pass...do the remaining 25% really matter?????

 

[700UW]

Bob, arbitration is equivalent to court and the company was found in violation of the F/A agreement by involuntary furloughing before offering voluntary and they were also found in violation of laying off more pilots then required both cases lost in arbitration recently and they will lose the airbus one too.

See when it is a minor dispute you go thru arbitration as the RLA prevents you from going to court.

 

[delldude]

Hey fliboi.........Yes the 4.5 mil was in his contract and it was approved by the MAJORITY of the BOD. I did not read where the union reps voted in favor for the package. Just a quick question that should make sense to any moron.....If Bronner controls the majority of seats on the BOD does it even matter if our union reps even attend the meetings? Let me see if I control 75% of the board members and it takes 51% for any measure to pass...do the remaining 25% really matter?????

am i mistaken in that the union board members have some kind of restrictions on voting rights?
like they can only vote on certain kinds of issues?
?????

 

[delldude]

He went on record saying he wouldn't take the money, now he changed his mind and took it. What do you think?

EYE:if i remember correctly when i saw the webcast video...i thought he said he was "willing" to give up his 4.5.......because this struck me as odd and i thought,hmmm...he's willing ,not 'going' to give it up.i knew then he was leaving himself an out.