City of Dallas tells Delta it can no longer fly out of Love Field

[eolesen]

you and your ignorance of what actually took place are an absolute embarrassment. Your statements are so far from reality you would have to be on drugs to have made them.

AA/US pleaded with the DOT and DOJ to prohibit any legacy carriers from receiving the divested slots.

That's rich. AA pleaded with the DOJ? Really?

DOJ may have totally failed in their responsibilities with regard to competition, but that's due to their own incompetence. If you think AA had any influence on the decisions being made with regard to who got their slots, you're the one puffing away...

DL's best reward will come in knowing that the US airline system is NOT made of on protected markets and where they aren't blocked by ridiculous protectionistic laws, DL can and will win against AA and WN every time.... just like they have been doing.

And yet, isn't DL's Pacific network its most profitable?

What % of DL's Pacific network is subject to Open Skies and free competition?
 

Boy, all this talk about crying to gov. authorities, protected markets, etc. sure sounds like the description of the operation DL is running in the "Tokyo market". i guess whole truth and winning aren't meant to go together ......................

Don't forget about China. DL's locked up two of the three state owned airlines, and has over 30% of the used frequencies right now. UA's following a similar approach, controlling 50% of the used frequencies, and codesharing with the remaining state owned airline. And yet, still DL won't fly nonstop into the larger partner's hub, knowing that neither UA or AA will bother with it because the DL partnership more or less locks up the feed there.

Don't get me wrong -- it's a great strategy to lock out competitors. But let's not pretend that DL isn't playing the same game to a much larger degree than what WT might want to admit to.

 

[WorldTraveler]

you are showing signs of Ebola.

Go read the transcripts from the day when the AA/US and DOJ agreement was reached.

there were statements made by both AA and WN that legacy carriers would not participate.

You are infected if you don't think AA and WN came up with that.

Tell me what countries in Asia are subject to restrictions that keep AA from serving it? And if you want to talk about HND, AA was awarded a route by its own choice, lost boatloads of money and walked away from it.

 

[robbedagain]

or more like WT is acting like he knows it all    Again he is just clearly upset that DL suffered a set back...  and got booted out.   He can claim sh!t all he wants  but the facts he presents just doesn't support the reality of what occurred.  

 

[WorldTraveler]

you simply don't KNOW the reality ... and sadly, are happy to not bother to find out because it runs counter to what you WANT to believe.

Ignorance is indeed bliss. Until reality raises its ugly head.

go back and read the DMN's archives for Nov 2013. Terry Maxon has done a pretty good job of cataloguing the fight for DAL gates and the part that AA and WN played which absolutely squares with my position of them preserving their duopoly of N. Texas commercial aviation.

 

[swamt]

What's with all the allusions to drug use this morning?

 
 

or more like WT is acting like he knows it all    Again he is just clearly upset that DL suffered a set back...  and got booted out.   He can claim sh!t all he wants  but the facts he presents just doesn't support the reality of what occurred.  

As someone else already noted, WT is very upset this morning.  He already knew about Delta getting booted, I think something else is bothering him.  Could it be the rather large up tick in passenger loads on SWA and Virgin starting Oct 14th due to Delta passengers rebooking because they want to remain flying out of LF?  Could it be that Delta just pissed off alot of customers and completely threw their travel plans out of whack??  Could it be that SWA is now running more commercials with the cheapest fares out of LF just after the announcement of Delta leaving LF???  Could it be that SWA should run a half price tickets for the displaced passengers that want to remain flying out of LF???? Or is it all because "ITYS"  (I Told You So) and he was proven wrong once again and it's just eating him alive?  Here's the latest report giving Delta the boot at LF:
 
City puts the brakes on Delta at Dallas Love Field

 

[WorldTraveler]

father, you, or who was a former DL employee that was FORCED to go to work for WN after DL closed DFW as a hub?

that's all we need to know.

 

[700UW]

father, you, or who was a former DL employee that was FORCED to go to work for WN after DL closed DFW as a hub?

that's all we need to know.

Who is we?

 

[WorldTraveler]

if only you knew....

What's with all the allusions to drug use this morning?

anyone who can try to argue that AA and WN didn't ask for the DOJ to restrict DL from gaining access to DAL has to be on drugs... esp. since it is all recorded on multiple websites.

 

[CMH_GSE]

And once again, DL is Denied, = Not winning.


http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/2014/10/delta-asked-virgin-america-to-share-its-gate-virgin-said-no-thanks.html/

 

[BABABOOY]

Looks like Delta will not go quietly
 
http://dallasmorningviewsblog.dallasnews.com/2014/10/delta-wont-go-quietly-at-love-field.html/

 

[eolesen]

Nope, but for all of Quinn's quotations, he skipped over the part which says accommodation is subject to the following conditions:
 

a. In case of a conflict between schedules of Lessee and the requesting airline, the Lessee shall have preferential use of its personnel and its Terminal Lease Area.

Like it or not, the Airport doesn't get to tell someone their ground time is too long. Neither does DL.

 

[WorldTraveler]

Looks like Delta will not go quietly
 
http://dallasmorningviewsblog.dallasnews.com/2014/10/delta-wont-go-quietly-at-love-field.html/

good for DL.

it's time for DL to push the whole DAL issue as far up the legal chain as necessary to show that AA and WN have carved up N. Texas to the exclusion of real competition.

 

[BABABOOY]

“Denying Delta’s continued access to DAL violates the City’s obligations under Section 4.06 of the Amended and Restated Lease of Terminal Building Premises, the Five Party Agreement, the City’s recent promise to accommodate Delta, its commitment in its Airline Competition Plan field with the Federal Aviation Administration to accommodate Delta and other new entrants at DAL, its Airport Improvement Program grant assurances and Federal Law,” a letter from attorney Kenneth P. Quinn states.

 

[ChockJockey]

I think it was very nice of VX to share gate space with SeaPort Airlines.

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

Looks like Delta will not go quietly
 
http://dallasmorningviewsblog.dallasnews.com/2014/10/delta-wont-go-quietly-at-love-field.html/

They didn't go quietly the last time they left North Texas. They did leave rapidly and in large numbers though.