Bye bye Tulsa

[Real tired]

.......... and since the topic of this thread is Bye Bye Tulsa...........
 
Let's hope not ! 
 
Because that's the same thing we say here in PIT and we were planning on adding TUL as a place we could bump to along with PHL and CLT.
 
In fact, when you talk to a MOC desk Mechanic, be sure and ask him if he's got that new pickup truck and big 'ole chrome John Deere belt buckle for when they close up MOC and move them down there.

 

[Real tired]

Did you work with Brad in the Engine Shop?

Brad?  I was in the Engine shop in '84.

 

[700UW]

He was in engine build up and sheet metal, during 2000s

 

[OldGuy@AA]

didnt think of that. you would be surprised how many at aa dont even know how much they make an hour. no less what is in the contract book.

Well Gen, I will admit I have no idea what our work rules are. We got a contract with no work rules so AA can write them as they wish with no objection from the TWU. Yet another reason to dump the TWU my friends.

 

[2ndGENAMT]

Real tired..

What has your US seniority list been doing since we got a look at it back in Feb.
Have many retired? Any new hires? Just curious..


http://twu514.org/files/2013/02/USAirways-Mech-SenList-Mech.pdf

 

[Real tired]

Actually, per the list of 6-1-2013.......... not much action.
 
1 through 10 are still here and the list now stops at 3544, but I doubt they are all here.
 
I'm in PIT, and as you can see, it's somewhat of a senior station.  To say the least.
 
You guys might want to hope that they keep PIT open, because when we come, the bumping will be felt from the top.
 
And no stinking test............

 

[OldGuy@AA]

Actually, per the list of 6-1-2013.......... not much action.
 
1 through 10 are still here and the list now stops at 3544, but I doubt they are all here.
 
I'm in PIT, and as you can see, it's somewhat of a senior station.  To say the least.
 
You guys might want to hope that they keep PIT open, because when we come, the bumping will be felt from the top.
 
And no stinking test............

You can pretty much bank on something closing down. PHX, PIT, TUL and isn't there one somewhere in North Carolina? My guess is that North Carolina is a given to be gone. One thing for sure. I ain't gonna be pretty. I'm sure they'll play all the bases against each other like the did with AFW, MCI and TUL.

 

[700UW]

CLT and PIT Heavy Mtc are contractually protected, as are certain line stations.

 

[Topcat187]

There are line mechanics and overhaul mechanics. In order for an overhaul mechanic to bid to a line station and be a line mechanic he must take and pass the line mechanic's test. If a line mechanic wants to bid to the overhaul base there is no test required. The kicker is that both types of mechanics have the same FAA Aircraft and Powerplant license. The company just changed the line test to make it much more difficult to pass. Everyone knows there are layoffs coming at the Tulsa maintenance base and the company doesn't want a large amount of overhaul mechanics to use their seniority and bump lower senior mechanics at line stations. They must pass the line test before they can bump. At the same time, the company has been hiring people off the street for JFK and LGA with no test at all required. So a new hire with no experience does not have to pass the test to get the job, but an experienced mechanic can't go to the line without the test. If this seems crazy to you then you are not alone. My point is that if the situation was reversed I would not expect an experienced mechanic to have to take a test invented by management that is set up to fail anyone they want to fail. We are all A&P mechanics and qualified to do maintenance on the aircraft no matter if it's line or overhaul. incidentally, the company reserves the right to wave any qualifying test they choose when they decide they want a specific person moved to a specific place. Our union has no problem with this system that is designed to rob someone of their seniority rights. Those of us at the overhaul base don't think this system is fair.

Your not entirely correct. A line AMT transferring to overhaul is required to test for the job he is
bidding ex. structures, systems, avionics or any specific shop. Anyone new hired to the line, will have to take the line test after being hired.

 

[OldGuy@AA]

I know several who did bid to Tulsa and none had to take any qualifying test.

 

[OldGuy@AA]

CLT and PIT Heavy Mtc are contractually protected, as are certain line stations.

MCI was protected contractually also. Ask anyone who was there. AA also had a contract with Raleigh Durham I believe. Promises mean nothing to morally bankrupt management.

 

[1AA]

CLT and PIT Heavy Mtc are contractually protected, as are certain line stations.
 

Contractually protected?? Now that is funny. Your talking about AA and the new way of doing things. We had many protections in our contract and AA when into it with the blessing of the International and changed articles. Wait and see what happens in the coming months or years. You or anyone who thinks that we are contractually protected will be looking for another job or another station to work. Just wait and see.

 

[700UW]

Thats the TWU and not the IAM.
 
I have lived it at US you havent, we have had stations closed and it always followed the CBA.

 

[AP Tech]

Just like the respect given to the union when they closed TPA and at the same time  had some narrow bodies on their way to contract overhaul......the IAM never had and never will have any B**** !!!!  Rumor mill now has it that the ramp will begin a/c repo in PHL....IAM response...they can do that!!!

 

[Bob Owens]

At one time they did. Was it 1966 when they aligned all their contracts to become amendable at once? EAL. At one time they lived up to their reputation as "The Fighting Machinists".