Big Announcement Coming Next Friday

[usa1]

A deal like that makes me wonder if something's up between US and AA. Less focus on LGA and more on JFK. A real shocker would be a hook up with CO and a focus on EWR. Could there be a CO/US/UA deal coming? There is a lot of over lap between US and CO. It would be a quick, easy way to ring a lot of industry over capacity just like a DL/US would have.

 

[700UW]

Does anyone remember US does not own that terminal, it is leased from CO?

 

[robbedagain]

I remember reading on this thread about that but who is to say that may be CO may have an input or may be as someone suggested possible merger down the road with may be ua/co/us or may be aa but i dont know

 

[boeingplt]

Steven Wolf will return from exile in Elba, and replace B.Ben Baldanza as CEO of Spirit. He will buy more E-190's than god can count, and although SWA is coming to kill us, U will likely buy TWA from AA, with the TWA pilots being stapled to the bottom of our list, since their airline is actually already gone. Consolidation is weeks away, as Barack Obama has made a UCT with China for additional new Chinese airliners which will be ferried in at night by the RC4, who will be freed and their sentences commuted for this top-secret operation. Crandall will return in glory to the helm of AA, and move to make a toehold in the now-abandoned PIT market. "United used to have a hub there, I have to checkmate them before they come back." A new mega-merger will be announced, with DL/NW merging with UA/CO, calling themselves Altair.

Both Elvis and my dog have both confirmed this. Elvis shares a crash pad in LGA with JFK, who actually faked his own death to get on the US Airways seniority list. Since he personally knows Babbitt, ALPA will be able to negotiate a $210/hr rate on the UFOs which will be taking over shuttle flying by 2010.

Rumors start to sound as foolish as this, yet we all still hang on them.

That has to be the most intelligent post I have ever read!

 

[ClueByFour]

Only US would attempt to exit the largest O&D market in the country. The LGA strategy (such as that is) got dumb under CCY-2 and dumber under Tempe.

I suppose the terminal swap might make some sense, if you believe that a smaller presence in LGA is a good thing.

 

[az_wild727]

Only US would attempt to exit the largest O&D market in the country. The LGA strategy (such as that is) got dumb under CCY-2 and dumber under Tempe.

I suppose the terminal swap might make some sense, if you believe that a smaller presence in LGA is a good thing.

Actually, UA slowly exited many years ago. Look what they have now? Just some lousy PS routes and an Express to IAD.

-Kinglobjaw

 

[usa1]

I remember reading on this thread about that but who is to say that may be CO may have an input or may be as someone suggested possible merger down the road with may be ua/co/us or may be aa but i dont know

IM thinking this has something to do with future consolidation and DOT approvals. Majors are positioning themselves.

 

[back2CLT]

Greater control at DCA with its high yeilds and growing demand (thanks to big gov.) at the expense of LGA with medium yeilds and short-term flat growth sounds like a sure fire winner for short term gain.....long term, eh, but no one ever accused Tempe of planning for the long term.

 

[FWAAA]

Actually, UA slowly exited many years ago. Look what they have now? Just some lousy PS routes and an Express to IAD.

You forgot about UA's presence at LGA, which is a key airport in what Clue correctly termed "the largest O&D market in the country." Additionally, I think UA still serves EWR, another airport in the largest O&D market in the country.

"Lousy" p.s. routes? It's a given that you don't fly JFK-SFO/LAX very often.

 

[FWAAA]

A deal like that makes me wonder if something's up between US and AA. Less focus on LGA and more on JFK. A real shocker would be a hook up with CO and a focus on EWR. Could there be a CO/US/UA deal coming? There is a lot of over lap between US and CO. It would be a quick, easy way to ring a lot of industry over capacity just like a DL/US would have.

If AA was interested in US, wouldn't AA be interested in the key US asset on the east coast - the LGA presence? US dumps to DL, there's nothing left at US that would attract AA.

 

[nycbusdriver]

A friend from the NW side of Delta based in LGA called a couple of days ago saying the rumour going on there involves a terminal swap since we do not utilize all of our gates.

My bet is on this being the bulk of the announcement. LCC will probably sell (trade for what?) a bunch of LGA slots to DL and end up with a token presence at LGA (a la EWR) and move in to part of the current NW/DL terminal. It will probably be shared with SWA! SW will get the east side gates so they can come and go as they please. LCC will get the west side gates and constantly have to wait for DL to clear the alleyway in order to push.

 

[nycbusdriver]

Some of the LGA slots, gates (a terminal swap) I would fall for. The A330's, well why would they want them if they're cutting back international flying during the recession?

If there are A330s involved, it will probably be DL getting rid of theirs (ex-NW) in favor of a 777 fleet. I'm sure they want to start eliminating fleet types, and DL already has the 777 which is far more versatile than any of the 330 models. (Of course, that last comment just sent BB to the Boeing and Airbus websites looking for proof that there is some obscure A330 that might outperform some obscure facet of the 777 performance. Happy hunting.)

 

[nycbusdriver]

.... and besides what would happen to the crews etc...

Unless there are contractual limits in place, when in the world was "what would happen to the crews" ever a factor in a management decision.

History shows exactly what will happen to the crews....the big "F!" (That's for "furlough," of course, but it certainly can be taking in other ways.)

 

[RowUnderDCA]

If AA was interested in US, wouldn't AA be interested in the key US asset on the east coast - the LGA presence? US dumps to DL, there's nothing left at US that would attract AA.

They would be interested in what's left. AA plus all of LCC at LGA would be too much share for the Feds. DL plus all of LCC at LGA would be too much share for the Feds. So, split it up.

Any chance that LCC and DL could retire LCC's 37s for some of NW's a319/20s?

 

[FWAAA]

They would be interested in what's left. AA plus all of LCC at LGA would be too much share for the Feds. DL plus all of LCC at LGA would be too much share for the Feds. So, split it up.

I agree with you on the antitrust issues. I doubt that the feds would allow DL or AA to completely take over the LGA assets of US. But post #22, relating the airliners.net rumour, mentioned DL getting "most" of US' LGA slots. If DL got most of them, I don't see AA being all that interested.