Automated Baggage System

[usfliboi]

The savings come from doing the work in-house, faster, cheaper and better, then sending them to a vendor.

And the company put itself in the position, not the IAM, the IAM is fighting for its members and their jobs, do you not understand this company wants to get rid of all heavy mtc?

Wheres the facts to back this up? To have an open ended state ment like that says nothing. Your leadership has backed yourself in the corner if this is the same attitude they have....... The same attitude that forced a second vote this last time a round. Heed warning my friends your fellow employees will not back the type of statements being made on here and Im one of them !

 

[700UW]

The IAM has provided the company with the cost figures and are meeting again to further the savings talks. Instead of usfliboi, you can use the screen name doubtingfliboi, and I don't want your company koolade support, you can give your wages and benefits back to the company us IAM members will not, and thank god you are not in my union!
March 15, 2004

US Airways Meets with IAM on Cost Savings

Dear Sisters and Brothers,

In response to the demonstrations by IAM members at US Airways’ airport terminals in Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Charlotte and Boston, the airline agreed to meet with the Machinists Union to discuss items IAM members have identified that, if enacted by the company, would provide US Airways with significant cost savings.

The initial meeting took place in Philadelphia on March 10, 2004 when US Airways Corporate Officers, local management and finance personnel met with IAM representatives from Districts 141 and 141-M, local committees and our economic advisor.

Both Districts presented significant cost savings proposals. District 141 identified more than a dozen items that would save the company money. District 141-M explained the significant cost savings the company could realize by repairing certain aircraft components in-house with IAM members instead of shipping the components to vendors. IAM and US Airways financial experts are currently working on the valuation of the IAM’s proposal.

US Airways has committed to continue working with the IAM to identify ways to reduce the carrier’s costs. Additional meetings between District 141 and US Airways are already scheduled for the week of March 22 in Philadelphia to continue evaluating and refining our ideas. District 141-M representatives will be meeting with the Senior VP of Maintenance this week in Pittsburgh to further discuss the IAM’s cost saving ideas.

We thank all members that participated in the March 5 demonstrations. Your support and solidarity is what forced US Airways to listen to our ideas.

 

[cavalier]

Wheres the facts to back this up?

You know what...we don't need no stinking facts to back it up or explain squat to you or your kind.

I am the guy you need to be afraid of because I MEAN what I say. I know I know, that’s a scary concept to you, making a stand for what’s right and having enough self-respect not to be used over and over by a bunch of corporate raiders that only have their personal interest at heart. These people don’t care if everyone is on the streets as long as they get theirs, it simply doesn’t matter. And then we have people like you, their best and strongest cheer leader, THAT’S what’s scary! A bunch of people like you would cripple this country if we ever really need to make a united stand.

 

[MrAeroMan]

The savings come from doing the work in-house, faster, cheaper and better, then sending them to a vendor.

And the company put itself in the position, not the IAM, the IAM is fighting for its members and their jobs, do you not understand this company wants to get rid of all heavy mtc?

Faster, cheaper and better is not something the IAM can ever hope to promise and the company did not put the IAM in the position it is now. The IAM put themselves in that position with their bassackwards type of thinking. There is no creativity in the Union palace aka IAM headquarters. Instead of being visionary they are reactionary and that was fine when you were dealing with the spineless CEO's they've dealt with in the past but now the BOD brought in the hired guns and they've out manuevered the IAM at every turn. I would also bet that the company has a plan if they lose the outsourcing issue on how they are going to react. Does the IAM have a plan to go to if they lose the argument?

 

[cavalier]

Does the IAM have a plan to go to if they lose the argument?

HOPE YOU DO!

 

[MrAeroMan]

Don't need one and glad to see you stay true to form Cav. So your answer is no....just what I thought and what everyone else expected.

 

[cavalier]

Don't need one and glad to see you stay true to form Cav. So your answer is no....just what I thought and what everyone else expected.

Glad I didn't disappoint you...have a great life...while I lick my wounds left over from Dave's lies.

 

[PITbull]

The savings come from doing the work in-house, faster, cheaper and better, then sending them to a vendor.

And the company put itself in the position, not the IAM, the IAM is fighting for its members and their jobs, do you not understand this company wants to get rid of all heavy mtc?

Faster, cheaper and better is not something the IAM can ever hope to promise and the company did not put the IAM in the position it is now. The IAM put themselves in that position with their bassackwards type of thinking. There is no creativity in the Union palace aka IAM headquarters. Instead of being visionary they are reactionary and that was fine when you were dealing with the spineless CEO's they've dealt with in the past but now the BOD brought in the hired guns and they've out manuevered the IAM at every turn. I would also bet that the company has a plan if they lose the outsourcing issue on how they are going to react. Does the IAM have a plan to go to if they lose the argument?

Mr. AreoMan,

You are alluding to the fact that this management could care less about cost savings. They want our wages and benefits....to the lowest levels in the industry.

That's your answer. ALPA ran to the table because they have the most to lose, we do not. Our folks will decide what's important not you or ALPA or anyone on this board.

 

[cavalier]

A320 Driver
Posted: Mar 16 2004, 08:54 AM


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First, I AM NOT CHIP doggoneit!



I NEVER called you chip.

>It is like a cancer that has grown over the last decade.

Ever since your men of pride crossed our picket line and called us Neanderthal, what do you really expect?

> I just don't get this self-importance that many have embraced.

My fellow co-workers and I feel like children with Dave's punitive policies via Jerry Glass's union breaking firm's ideas. I sure don't feel self important, do you?

> I do my job the best I can and go HOME.

That's to be commended, but burying your face in the sand while all hell breaks out around you, threatening your very livelihood, is not wise.

The future of the thousands you referred to is in DAVE'S hands, not mine, and don’t twist that reality sir!

You need to stop and take a deep breath, because this is only a job and not your heart beat failing you, you are NOT in a critical care unit fighting for your life, you could be, and that's why you need to be thankful for the God given positives in your life. You have your health and intelligence, you will go on. Don't let the likes of Dave and Jerry make you forget these simple facts.

 

[openview]

....faster, cheaper and better, then sending them to a vendor.

There is the single statement to mine from all of this. Either you, as a company, or a vendor, or a union continually work to achieve that goal by making the hard choices and decisions or competition will decay your overall power until a handful are forced to make dire decisions and reactions. Right now that is happening by mgmt and unions. So if a union doesn't cut the inefficient work rules out of a contract over time, or continues to protect even the laziest worker, it just serves to erode the good rules and beneifits little by little.

Either you negotiate for your group collectively & reasonably, or someone will do it for you, no matter how you look at it.

 

[700UW]

The company in the second round of concessions got the inefficient workrules as you say. Now they want to get rid of the maintenance department totally and just have a few line mechanics, don't you get it?

And the IAM presented the company with SEVERAL options on how to perform the airbus maintenance in-house, the company never ever provided the IAM with anything!

 

[MrAeroMan]

Mr. AreoMan,

You are alluding to the fact that this management could care less about cost savings. They want our wages and benefits....to the lowest levels in the industry.

That's your answer. ALPA ran to the table because they have the most to lose, we do not. Our folks will decide what's important not you or ALPA or anyone on this board.

Again, if you don't have a plan blame management to deflect the fact that you SHOULD have a plan. You're no better than they are from a planning perspective.

 

[700UW]

Last time I checked no union member is getting paid $3.8 Million dollars to run the company, but davey boy did!

 

[openview]

What do you think of the compensation of professional athletes?

 

[ClueByFour]

If you say they did, why don't you show us the proof.

That has the same odds of happening (producing some proof that the company offered anything to the IAM in the way of a proposal on the Airbus work) as a certain captain on the US seniority list seeing the left seat of a 747/777 before retirement.

Eg, none.