Automated Baggage System

[linemech]

Why does this guy keep getting away with his talk?I mean i thought its a priv to post on here not a right? Frankly its aggrivating to try and read great post only to see a few on here spew their hatred and cursing on here. Its hard enough to read thru the post u wanna read but every other post of these guys have been deleted or their hate mail.

usfliboi,

Although I did not see the post before a portion was deleted, what I did see appears to be accurate.

Management did ask the IAM to submit a bid to operate and maintain the system, and even with the cost being substantially lower than any other it was not considered.

The recent announcement by management that they would finally listen to the IAM on cost saving ideas was only due to bad PR..........they have no intention of implementing any of the 100 million in savings ideas.

At a time when they should be carefuly considering every idea, they will instead choose to show the IAM who is boss no matter what the cost.

If this is managements way of punishing the IAM it only shows us that spoiled brats should play in sand boxes, not in the airline business.

This is not labor friendly, it is childish for management to have chosen this path !

linemech

 

[cavalier]

he is doing a great job for what he was hired for and thats all he should care, pleasing his BOSS!

Sure he's doing a good job, as well as yourself, doing his bidding.

Are you pleasing your boss?

 

[usfliboi]

Sure he's doing a good job, as well as yourself, doing his bidding.

Are you pleasing your boss?

Oh trust me sir cavalier, i please my boss every day !

 

[usfliboi]

usfliboi,

Although I did not see the post before a portion was deleted, what I did see appears to be accurate.

Management did ask the IAM to submit a bid to operate and maintain the system, and even with the cost being substantially lower than any other it was not considered.

The recent announcement by management that they would finally listen to the IAM on cost saving ideas was only due to bad PR..........they have no intention of implementing any of the 100 million in savings ideas.

At a time when they should be carefuly considering every idea, they will instead choose to show the IAM who is boss no matter what the cost.

If this is managements way of punishing the IAM it only shows us that spoiled brats should play in sand boxes, not in the airline business.

This is not labor friendly, it is childish for management to have chosen this path !

linemech

Would be interesting to see this "bid" you speak of. I ve heard but never seen nor has IAM cam out and proven it have they?

 

[cavalier]

Would be interesting to see this "bid" you speak of. I ve heard but never seen nor has IAM cam out and proven it have they? [/QUOTE]



You know what...it doesn't matter if you believe it or not because your mind is made up regardless of facts.

It was even in the press, but I guess they too doesn't count.

 

[ojxux]

This company is totally f'd up! Really hard to understand this one.

 

[usfliboi]

Would be interesting to see this "bid" you speak of. I ve heard but never seen nor has IAM cam out and proven it have they?

You know what...it doesn't matter if you believe it or not because your mind is made up regardless of facts.

It was even in the press, but I guess they too doesn't count. [/quote]
sure it does matter. I havent seen one thread of proof. I believ the media reported that iam said they had mad a bid? Correct?

 

[cavalier]

You know what...it doesn't matter if you believe it or not because your mind is made up regardless of facts.

It was even in the press, but I guess they too doesn't count.

sure it does matter. I havent seen one thread of proof. I believ the media reported that iam said they had mad a bid? Correct? [/quote]
believe what you want.....

 

[sentrido]

piney, as much as I hate to see those 35 mechs put on the street US is under no obligation to maintian the baggage system in PIT. Why shouldnt the IAM try to deal there?Its work thats not protected. The airbus issue on the other hand is protected work(arbitrator willing). Why should they give that up? for what?

 

[sentrido]

"IAM was given a shot to guarantee it's members good security and they laughed. "
I guess I missed that, do you have a link?

 

[openview]

.....they have no intention of implementing any of the 100 million in savings ideas.

Why does it take any union the threat of concessions to point out where 100 mil. could, but isn't being saved.

 

[USA320Pilot]

PineyBob:

You are correct. The Company offered the IAM a proposal to conduct the A320 heavy maintenance in-house and then union negotiators rejected the plan and filed the lawsuit. The proposal was an opener, but now that the Company won the lawsuit and appears headed to a grievance victory, thus the mechanics may not have very much leverage.

In my opinion, the IAM is digging a deep hole and some great US Airways mechanics could get badly hurt.

Regards,

USA320Pilot

 

[pitguy]

In my opinion USA320Pilot you are panicked and PineyBob does not know what contract language means to an arbitrator. The court issue was not a ruling regarding the meaning (intent) of the language. I can not even believe I am trying to explain this to a pilot that scabbed the Mechanics in '92 and a copier sales guy. Neither of whom will have any input, but it is duly noted that one will lose miles if the company closes ( and appears jealous of others) and the other will have to find another job for allot less cash. Gee, maybe that is their motive. Let alone in this forum topic which is not even related.

Hey USA320Pilot are you a man of your word???????

QUOTE (USA320Pilot@ Feb 23 2004, 06:57 AM)
â€￾I will not dictate terms to you and until you start paying my bills, don't you dare dictate them to me either.â€￾







--Anyhow I see Dave The New Lorenzo is using his 'secret weapon' on the Mechanics.

 

[USA320Pilot]

Pitguy:

I'm not dictating terms and your union can do what they desire. Either you can cut a deal to perform overhaul in-house or in my opinion you can see most of your colleagues furloughed. The facts are the Company offered the IAM a proposal to conduct the A320 overhaul in-house, the union rejected the proposal, and refuses to engage in "Going Forward Plan" discussions.

Thus, what should the company do? Continue with high cost maintenance when the union will not bargain or seek other alternatives?

In my opinion, without a deal (with the company remaining independent), you will see no A320 overhaul and the B737/B757/B767 overhaul removed from service as the Company replaces these aircraft with A330, A320 family, and EMB-190/195 aircraft in the next few years. Moreover, US Airways has the contractual right to shut down all Pittsburgh B737 overhaul as early as this January, which could easily occur.

And guess what, we haven't even discussed the painful issues the mechanics could still face, who I believe are great and dedicated people.

The IAM has a poor grievance track record, therefore, the odds seem to be against them. It's really up to you and your colleagues.

Do I like it? No, in fact it s_c_s, but it's reality.

Regards,

USA320Pilot

 

[delldude]

OHHH So NOW we admit that the company made a outsource proposal to IAM.

Management did ask the IAM to submit a bid to operate and maintain the system, and even with the cost being substantially lower than any other it was not considered.
bob...you miss something here,friend??