August 2013 Pilot Discussion

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ANY actions towards actually forcing improvements would only be met with the likes of your fearless "leaders" eagerly asking of management if they could "turn in" their supposedly fellow pilots anyway. What's your point? Has the west now tired of cheering on injunctions against the union? Sigh! With the likes of mighty "spartans" on one's team...who needs any mangement foes? ;) You've made of yourselves nothing more than management's willing little "usefull idiots", and they fully know the caliber of your group. Are you at all even implying that giving "you'se" the nic would in ANY way change your demonstrated "character"? Thanks for the Joke of the Day. :)
THE LAS BOLAS crowd, the "WEST"
 
Run along now and turn in those "BAD EAST PILOTS" for 3 engine taxi, glad to see the AOL whinery is still open!

Indeed. As previously noted: I wouldn't trust that pathetic bunch, as a whole anyway, with so much as loose change on a lunch counter that wasn't well-guarded. There are decent folks out west, but not nearly enough, it seems.
 
Indeed. As previously noted: I wouldn't trust that pathetic bunch, as a whole anyway, with so much as loose change on a lunch counter that wasn't well-guarded. There are decent folks out west, but not nearly enough, it seems.
I would agree in fact, when one WEST is on a jumpseat I insist, No-, cameras, cellphones, Ipad, Itouch etc, or they can sit at the F/A jumpseat the whole flt! Besides you could get feces thru the mail! Any of their personal belongings are not in the cockpit!
 
I would agree in fact, when one WEST is on a jumpseat I insist, No-, cameras, cellphones, Ipad, Itouch etc, or they can sit at the F/A jumpseat the whole flt! Besides you could get feces thru the mail! Any of their personal belongings are not in the cockpit!

We must differ there. I will treat anyone on the jumpseat as a professional and a guest...whether the particular individual's actually worthy of that or not. That's just a matter of personal principles and an effort to respect the now-only-supposed, but once-great profession.
 
I would agree in fact, when one WEST is on a jumpseat I insist, No-, cameras, cellphones, Ipad, Itouch etc, or they can sit at the F/A jumpseat the whole flt! Besides you could get feces thru the mail! Any of their personal belongings are not in the cockpit!

It's official now, you're a lunatic.
 
ANY actions towards actually forcing improvements would only be met with the likes of your fearless "leaders" eagerly asking of management if they could "turn in" their supposedly fellow pilots anyway. What's your point? Has the west now tired of cheering on injunctions against the union? Sigh! With the likes of mighty "spartans" on one's team...who needs any management foes? ;) You've made of yourselves nothing more than management's willing (and even eager) little "usefull idiots", and they fully know the caliber of your group. Are you now at all even implying that giving "you'se" the nic would in ANY way change your group's VERY-well-demonstrated "character"? Thanks for the Joke of the Day. :)
So the west pilots are responsible for the east pilots being on LOA93? How did a minority group of pilots with virtually no voice within USAPA accomplish that?
 
So the west pilots are responsible for the east pilots being on LOA93? How did a minority group of pilots with virtually no voice within USAPA accomplish that?

No, Not at all, and not even close to my obvious point, which is that I've no notions to be held even inside Fantasyland it's self that your sorry bunch would be good for ANYthing whenever confronting management, but would instead, merely serve management's purposes as fully as you could.

Feed a weasel whatever it wants (nic/whatever)...and you've still just got a weasel on your hands. Put however much lipstick you wish on pigs, and...well/etc. Reference the video of Johnny M. asking Parker if he can "turn in" east pilots, should ANY justification for my logic here be needed. Whenever people tell and show you who and what they truly are...Believe them!
 
No, Not at all, and not even close to my obvious point, which is that I've no notions to be held even inside Fantasyland it's self that your sorry bunch would be good for ANYthing whenever confronting management, but would instead, merely serve management's purposes as fully as you could.
Wouldn't you say that the east "bunch" is far and away the ones responsible serving management's purposes as fully as you (pl) could? Can the west pilots close out S22 and end all legal challenges by a simple act of accepting the legal list or is that USAPA and the east - and them alone - who can end that dispute tomorrow? Would the NMB unpark negotiations if some or all of the west pilots asked them to? How about if USAPA said they no longer disagreed with Management over the S22 list, how do you think the NMB would respond to that change of direction by USAPA?
 
Wouldn't you say that the east "bunch" is far and away the ones responsible serving management's purposes as fully as you (pl) could? Can the west pilots close out S22 and end all legal challenges by a simple act of accepting the legal list or is that USAPA and the east - and them alone - who can end that dispute tomorrow? Would the NMB unpark negotiations if some or all of the west pilots asked them to? How about if USAPA said they no longer disagreed with Management over the S22 list, how do you think the NMB would respond to that change of direction by USAPA?

The west pilot group, in my earnest estimation, would prove utterly worthless in ANY confrontation with management, and in fact, would prove entirely detrimental to the process...Period...End-of-Story. There is therefore, again in my opinion, but based on all I've observed; absolutely ZERO reasons for wishing to curry favor with your sorry lot at any level. Are we clear now?
 
Wouldn't you say that the east "bunch" is far and away the ones responsible serving management's purposes as fully as you (pl) could? Can the west pilots close out S22 and end all legal challenges by a simple act of accepting the legal list or is that USAPA and the east - and them alone - who can end that dispute tomorrow? Would the NMB unpark negotiations if some or all of the west pilots asked them to? How about if USAPA said they no longer disagreed with Management over the S22 list, how do you think the NMB would respond to that change of direction by USAPA?
Accepting the legal list? DREAM ON, why don't you just say acquiesce to proposal that is totally absurd!
 
The west pilot group, in my earnest estimation, would prove utterly worthless in ANY confrontation with management, and in fact, would prove entirely detrimental to the process...Period...End-of-Story. There is therefore, again in my opinion, but based on all I've observed; absolutely ZERO reasons for wishing to curry favor with your sorry lot at any level. Are we clear now?
Crystal. Of the two groups - Management and USAPA/east, which one is proposing to do more harm to the west via contract negotiations today (or over the last five years if you prefer)?
 
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