August 2013 Pilot Discussion

[Res Judicata]

Great post. The AMR pilots have their choice, a turd and dui ceo named doug or ceo of amr horton who the BK judge told him no 20 million. It took quite a lot of courage (sarcasm) for the american pilots to go for the money.

If US Airways and the creditors did not step in, the AMR pilots would not have their furlough clause, their pay and benefits would have been cut and they think they still have a chance at 100,000 dollars equity per pilot.

US Airways pilots whould love to see doug, horton, apa pilots and the creditors get it shoveved up their greedy large pores.

All will complain during the holidays and pass blame about the poor operation.

Such jealousy over the 100k you Won't see a dime of. You didn't earn a penny of it and are not worthy of anything. Understand that.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

What's so difficult for your to comprehend? Bybee made a powerful and cogent argument in dissenting from the other two justices that dismissing the DFR case on ripeness grounds would be a failure of the court to properly resolve a dispute between the two parties. Furthermore he said it was quite clear that USAPA had no intention, and had clearly stated as much, of abiding by their DFR responsibilities regarding the NIC and that sending them away with a warning would simply delay the justice that was ultimately due to the west pilots per federal law. He was spot on by all accounts and on all points. The parties are still in a state of unresolved dispute and there have been at least two (more like four federal cases: PHX-DJ, NC-Status Quo, NY-Status Quo, PHX-MOU/DFR II) clogging up the courts because the parties cannot come to an out-of-court settlement of this SLI dispute. USAPA has heeded no warnings from Wake, Bybee, Tashima, Graber, or Silver related to their DFR and the NIC. So now in the aftermath of all that Bybee can remind the other two justices that his dissenting opinion was spot on and that they should now do what they failed to do last time, namely evaluate the Company's DJ as a case ripe for adjudication and determine on the merits that Silver can resolve the unanswered DFR question definitively on Count 1 or on Count 2 with no caveats attached like last time.

History has proven Bybee to be right on those points. Perhaps he's not the kind to laugh or gloat, but he certainly wasn't wrong about USAPA not abiding by the NIC or the fact that the courts would ultimately have to decide if their stated intentions were a DFR or not.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2009/04/congress_shouldnt_impeach_bybee.html

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Let history be your guide! CALLY!

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

If the merger dosent go thru, delta will own florida. Then the ticket prices will see no end to the rise. Not allowing the merger will garner 2 airlines and southwest, the rest will be inconsequential...

To dissallow would in my opinion be "Ignorant"..

Delta will own Florida, IGNORANT !

 

[Claxon]

Such jealousy over the 100k you Won't see a dime of. You didn't earn a penny of it and are not worthy of anything. Understand that.

You have decribed the holiday fare sale. Thank you.

 

[Claxon]

america west pilots scabs in Australia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5t5aE0iW4o

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

If the merger dosent go thru, delta will own florida. Then the ticket prices will see no end to the rise. Not allowing the merger will garner 2 airlines and southwest, the rest will be inconsequential...

To dissallow would in my opinion be "Ignorant"..

dosent? yeaaaaa!

 

[traderjake]

Such jealousy over the 100k you Won't see a dime of. You didn't earn a penny of it and are not worthy of anything. Understand that.

USAPA can't even get the 3% raises the company admitted they owe us.

 

[CallawayGolf]

http://www.slate.com...each_bybee.html

Does he get to offer his opinion/vote on the DJ appeal or not? Not sure what your link has to do with anything related to this topic.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Does he get to offer his opinion/vote on the DJ appeal or not? Not sure what your link has to do with anything related to this topic.

http://ccrjustice.org/get-involved/action/impeach-torture-architect-jay-bybee

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Does he get to offer his opinion/vote on the DJ appeal or not? Not sure what your link has to do with anything related to this topic.

One of the principal authors was Jay Bybee, the former head of the OLC and today a federal judge on the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. His flagrant contempt for the rule of law is utterly inconsistent with his judicial position and speaks directly to his competency to function in that office. It is unacceptable for an individual who abused his status as a government lawyer and violated the law in conspiring with other members of the Bush Torture Team to sit as a federal judge, someone who hears and decides issues of constitutional import. At the time of his confirmation hearing, his role in the Torture Program was secret, as was the program itself. Jay Bybee’s actions constitute High Crimes and Misdemeanors by any standard

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Funny Cally !

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Does he get to offer his opinion/vote on the DJ appeal or not? Not sure what your link has to do with anything related to this topic.

Integrity Matters?

 

[CallawayGolf]

One of the principal authors was Jay Bybee, the former head of the OLC and today a federal judge on the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. His flagrant contempt for the rule of law is utterly inconsistent with his judicial position and speaks directly to his competency to function in that office. It is unacceptable for an individual who abused his status as a government lawyer and violated the law in conspiring with other members of the Bush Torture Team to sit as a federal judge, someone who hears and decides issues of constitutional import. At the time of his confirmation hearing, his role in the Torture Program was secret, as was the program itself. Jay Bybee’s actions constitute High Crimes and Misdemeanors by any standard

What's a Bush Torture Team? Apparently Bybee's actions don't constitute High Crimes and Misdemeanors by any standard since he is still actively serving as a member of the Ninth Circuit just as you noted. If he's on the bench when the DJ or any other appeal in the SLI dispute reaches the Ninth then I suspect his opinion (which has been against USAPA's position) will go on the judicial record just like any of his colleagues. If Tashima or Graber see their errors in the precious ruling based on the the fact there is still an active dispute they didn't relieve, well then his vote will suddenly become a majority and a dissenting one.

 

[CallawayGolf]

Integrity Matters?

As does the rule of law. My opposition to every military engagement and other egregious actions by the military, the CIA, FBI, NSA and the rest is based on the Constitution and how leaders dismiss it as the rule of law. This one aspect that politicians or judges have turned a blind eye to that document is just a drop in the bucket compared to the rest of their actions and damage they have done over the last century. They are all corrupt and get away with treason against the law of the land on a daily basis.