April/May 2013 Pilot Discussion

[snapthis]

If you hate USAPA, then you hate East pilots by association because the cause of the MAJORITY of your PROBLEM is the vote the MAJORITY of the East pilots cast FOR USAPA when the NMB election process was finished and ALPA voted off the property. It doesn't matter how much common ground you find with East pilots, you'll always HATE us for voting in the ONE thing that cashes your righteousness: USAPA.

I'll remind you the "majority" of East pilots certainly was not unanimous.

 

[end_of_alpa]

I'll remind you the "majority" of East pilots certainly was not unanimous.

It was still more than you.

 

[Phoenix]

OK, what do you bring to the table other than DOH with C&R's?

Silver gave the West a side table, but it gonna last much longer. Do you think Silver will give the West a seat at the MB table?

 

[snapthis]

It was still more than you.

Yea, I have just one vote.

 

[snapthis]

Silver gave the West a side table, but it gonna last much longer. Do you think Silver will give the West a seat at the MB table?

I expect nothing less than justice. If not, do you think an appeal might be an option for those of us without a seat?

 

[Metroyet]

Silver gave the West a side table, but it gonna last much longer. Do you think Silver will give the West a seat at the MB table?

I give that the same odds of USAPA being neutral, fair and equitable to both sides in this dispute.

 

[3dtv]

[font=Times New Roman"]“…The Arbitration Board conducts an evidentiary hearing, with witnesses, evidence and a stenographic transcript. The Board’s Opinion and Award are to be issued simultaneously, within 150 days following the PID, unless both pilot groups and ALPA’s President agree to an extension. The Merger Policy provides, “The Award of the Arbitration Board shall be final and binding on all parties to the arbitration and shall be defended by ALPA.” No ALPA seniority integration arbitration result has ever been set aside by the courts although some dissatisfied pilots have challenged the award before administrative agencies and the courts.”[/font]
US Airwaves June/July 2000
US Air Merger Committee Members: Todd Cardoza (PIT), Mike Cleary (BOS),Randy Mowery (PIT)

Maybe you should think twice before depending on statements from a couple of criminal narcissists.

 

[cactusboy53]

Maybe you should think twice before depending on statements from a couple of criminal narcissists.

How about this statement then......

“Actually, it is USAPA that is needlessly delaying the resolution of the seniority dispute and jeopardizing the enforceability of the agreement the parties are able to reach. …….The arbitrator’s decision was to be final and binding on both pilot groups and was to be accepted by the Company so long as certain conditions were met. The Nicolau Award has resulted in four years of litigation including a trial in federal court and jury verdict fining USAPA’s proposal for a non-Nicolau list to constitute an unlawful breach of the union’s duty of fair representation….”

Paul D. Jones; Vice President – Legal Affairs and Chief Compliance Officer

Exhibit 1 of Declaration of Counsel; Case 13-15000, 02/20/2013

 

[Phoenix]

I expect nothing less than justice...

The West has spent a great to deal of time and money making their case to the courts. Have the courts meted out anything other than justice?

 

[snapthis]

Horner, you have led these poor guys on a goose chase for years. You have cost them Millions. You have not gotten the "prize" for 7 years. How can you keep showing your face?

Leonidas is not on a goose chase.

I think we all know the hazards of chasing wild geese. Sometimes you get wet. USAPA is holding a goose egg, called DOH.

 

[snapthis]

The West has spent a great to deal of time and money making their case to the courts. Have the courts meted out anything other than justice?

Delay. Just delay

 

[Phoenix]

Delay. Just delay

Justice delayed, is justice denied. William Gladstone
British politician (1809 - 1898)

"Delay" is how one characterizes "No." in order to keep hope alive.

 

[snapthis]

Justice delayed, is justice denied. William Gladstone
British politician (1809 - 1898)

"Delay" is how one characterizes "No." in order to keep hope alive.

"Keep hope alive"

Yousapa should use that as a slogan. I've got an idea for a spokesman

 

[3dtv]

How about this statement then......

“Actually, it is USAPA that is needlessly delaying the resolution of the seniority dispute and jeopardizing the enforceability of the agreement the parties are able to reach. …….The arbitrator’s decision was to be final and binding on both pilot groups and was to be accepted by the Company so long as certain conditions were met. The Nicolau Award has resulted in four years of litigation including a trial in federal court and jury verdict fining USAPA’s proposal for a non-Nicolau list to constitute an unlawful breach of the union’s duty of fair representation….”

Paul D. Jones; Vice President – Legal Affairs and Chief Compliance Officer

Exhibit 1 of Declaration of Counsel; Case 13-15000, 02/20/2013

Nope.

This trumps ALL your quotes:

"IT IS ORDERED Counts I and III of the complaint are dismissed and judgment is

entered in favor of US Airline Pilots Association on Count II of the complaint. US Airline

Pilots Association’s seniority proposal does not breach its duty of fair representation

provided it is supported by a legitimate union purpose."

 

[Pi brat]

How about this statement then......

“Actually, it is USAPA that is needlessly delaying the resolution of the seniority dispute and jeopardizing the enforceability of the agreement the parties are able to reach. …….The arbitrator’s decision was to be final and binding on both pilot groups and was to be accepted by the Company so long as certain conditions were met. The Nicolau Award has resulted in four years of litigation including a trial in federal court and jury verdict fining USAPA’s proposal for a non-Nicolau list to constitute an unlawful breach of the union’s duty of fair representation….”

Paul D. Jones; Vice President – Legal Affairs and Chief Compliance Officer

Exhibit 1 of Declaration of Counsel; Case 13-15000, 02/20/2013

Let me guess, history major?