April/May 2013 Pilot Discussion

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Why do you think that just because ALPA changed their merger policy AFTER the arbitration that it matters one bit? It doesn't. Not in the least. We used the policy in place at the time and followed it to a tee. Both sides agreed to put their fate in the hands of an arbitrator and two neutrals. Everything you just posted is irrelevant.
 
Why do you think that just because ALPA changed their merger policy AFTER the arbitration that it matters one bit? It doesn't. Not in the least. We used the policy in place at the time and followed it to a tee. Both sides agreed to put their fate in the hands of an arbitrator and two neutrals. Everything you just posted is irrelevant.

You are a west pilot that took recall to the East. Judge Silver said no NIC. The best you could hope for is a three way M/B, you will be on the furloughed list. Best of luck to you sir.
 
Why do you think that just because ALPA changed their merger policy AFTER the arbitration that it matters one bit? It doesn't. Not in the least. We used the policy in place at the time and followed it to a tee. Both sides agreed to put their fate in the hands of an arbitrator and two neutrals. Everything you just posted is irrelevant.
Why do you think that just because ALPA changed their merger policy AFTER the arbitration that it matters one bit? It doesn't. Not in the least. We used the policy in place at the time and followed it to a tee. Both sides agreed to put their fate in the hands of an arbitrator and two neutrals. Everything you just posted is irrelevant.

Windfall... that was the problem that the Nic abomination totally ignored!
 
Why do you think that just because ALPA changed their merger policy AFTER the arbitration that it matters one bit? It doesn't. Not in the least. We used the policy in place at the time and followed it to a tee. Both sides agreed to put their fate in the hands of an arbitrator and two neutrals. Everything you just posted is irrelevant.
30000 US legacy airline pilots say you are wrong. Judge Silver just told Marty " Look, I told you it doesn't have to be the Nicolau, OK?" Seems to me and about 30000 others say it matters.
 
30000 US legacy airline pilots say you are wrong. Judge Silver just told Marty " Look, I told you it doesn't have to be the Nicolau, OK?" Seems to me and about 30000 others say it matters.

Last few mergers don't agree with you.
 
Interesting times. Looks like USAPA (and LEO) is doing exactly what Judge Silver ordered. The honorable judge strayed quite a bit, but all parties will do as ordered. I don't say this in a mean way, but the Judge is in for a little education on the RLA. Please note the USAPA update from today:

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT the BPR gives the Ad Hoc Settlement Discussions Representatives Committee the power to enter into discussions with the plaintiffs in Addington v USAPA, 13-CV-00471-ROS (District of Arizona). The results of these settlement discussions must be submitted to the Board of Pilot Representatives on or before June 5, 2013 for consideration, and if appropriate approval and/or pilot ratification,


Ok, I look forward the the results of the upcoming "come to Jesus" of East and West. But I note the requirement for membership ratificaton, as Judge Silver will also become intimate with.


Like I posted yesterday. What does it take for me to vote "yes" on any list? Time for Parker to pony up.

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That goes along with the so-called fact that US Airways had no furloughed pilots when the acquisition took place in 2005, JJ.

You speak with forked tongue. What I said was the East had no furloughed pilots at the time of the merger. According to the government, that was spring of 2008, when they granted single carrier status. At that time, all East pilots were employed at US Airways. The interesting thing to note, now having hindsight, is why Parker took almost 3 years to get that status. I believe it speaks to his intent. Thus he also speaks with the "forked tongue" and continues to steal from us all.

The APA is in love with Kirby and Parker. That infatuation will soon take a turn for the worst.

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You speak with forked tongue. What I said was the East had no furloughed pilots at the time of the merger. According to the government, that was spring of 2008, when they granted single carrier status. At that time, all East pilots were employed at US Airways. The interesting thing to note, now having hindsight, is why Parker took almost 3 years to get that status. I believe it speaks to his intent. Thus he also speaks with the "forked tongue" and continues to steal from us all.

The APA is in love with Kirby and Parker. That infatuation will soon take a turn for the worst.

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When did we have at PID again?
 
You speak with forked tongue. What I said was the East had no furloughed pilots at the time of the merger. According to the government, that was spring of 2008, when they granted single carrier status. At that time, all East pilots were employed at US Airways. The interesting thing to note, now having hindsight, is why Parker took almost 3 years to get that status. I believe it speaks to his intent. Thus he also speaks with the "forked tongue" and continues to steal from us all.

The APA is in love with Kirby and Parker. That infatuation will soon take a turn for the worst.

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2008? Man Mark, you're really grasping.
 
What did we have at PID again?

That is only a reference to a failed process at a failed union. You should look forward, not back. One crew base, no WBs, very little attrition. That is the price you pay for not ageeing to DOH with fences and restrictions. Good luck. IF you are granted 3rd party status, you are on your own.

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