April/May 2013 Pilot Discussion

[EastUS1]

Dude, you're the one standing on the tracks.

Most amusing "Dude". Since you're/"us".."we're"/etc, supposedly a long-time "east" pilot: Wouldn't you also be "standing on the tracks" with him..? Seriously; do you actually think at all?...Or, as is the case with your faux persona...merely imagine that you do?

 

[Walmartgreeter]

A few facts before I sleep:

The "merger" of our pilot groups never actually really happened. But if pressed, I might suppose I could cave and say it happened in early 2008, after ALL the East furloughs were back on the property. The government says we merged THEN, when they granted us single carrier status. Surprise! Parker and his henchmen neglected to attend to that matter for almost 3 years. Too bad for the West Class. NO furlouged East pilots at the time of the merger. None. Book mark it.

But no worries, the POR (or later) will be the new snapshot. Hopefully the West Class will able to argue all the wide bodies, crew bases, and attrition they bring to the table. "None. One. Very little."

Funny thing is, one of their furloughed pilots recalled to the East can now hold Captain. Yet they still have pilots on the street. Tough sell in M/B. Yikes.

The West Class will never, ever be permitted to place a pilot from the East with seventeen years unbroken service below a new hire. Book mark it again. Not going to happen. Ever

Greeter

 

[dca319]

How many digits and or letters are in your CATCREW password?

Either 4 or 10 depending on what they're serving for dinner in Essington.

 

[dca319]

A few facts before I sleep:

The "merger" of our pilot groups never actually really happened. But if pressed, I might suppose I could cave and say it happened in early 2008, after ALL the East furloughs were back on the property. The government says we merged THEN, when they granted us single carrier status. Surprise! Parker and his henchmen neglected to attend to that matter for almost 3 years. Too bad for the West Class. NO furlouged East pilots at the time of the merger. None. Book mark it.

But no worries, the POR (or later) will be the new snapshot. Hopefully the West Class will able to argue all the wide bodies, crew bases, and attrition they bring to the table. "None. One. Very little."

Funny thing is, one of their furloughed pilots recalled to the East can now hold Captain. Yet they still have pilots on the street. Tough sell in M/B. Yikes.

The West Class will never, ever be permitted to place a pilot from the East with seventeen years unbroken service below a new hire. Book mark it again. Not going to happen. Ever

Greeter

Go to sleep Mark, you're delusional.

 

[dca319]

Most amusing "Dude". Since you're/"us".."we're"/etc, supposedly a long-time "east" pilot: Wouldn't you also be "standing on the tracks" with him..? Seriously; do you actually think at all?...Or, as is the case with your faux persona...merely imagine that you do?

Man oh man Admiral, you just can't shut it, can you?

 

[dca319]

No doubt. Much like you've done for the past six years.

And our majority has put them in their place with DoH. We sure showed them, didn't we Chief?

 

[Claxon]

A few facts before I sleep:

The "merger" of our pilot groups never actually really happened. But if pressed, I might suppose I could cave and say it happened in early 2008, after ALL the East furloughs were back on the property. The government says we merged THEN, when they granted us single carrier status. Surprise! Parker and his henchmen neglected to attend to that matter for almost 3 years. Too bad for the West Class. NO furlouged East pilots at the time of the merger. None. Book mark it.

But no worries, the POR (or later) will be the new snapshot. Hopefully the West Class will able to argue all the wide bodies, crew bases, and attrition they bring to the table. "None. One. Very little."

Funny thing is, one of their furloughed pilots recalled to the East can now hold Captain. Yet they still have pilots on the street. Tough sell in M/B. Yikes.

The West Class will never, ever be permitted to place a pilot from the East with seventeen years unbroken service below a new hire. Book mark it again. Not going to happen. Ever

Greeter

Great post. west fails to mention that east flight attendants that bid PHX get a america west id and benefits, sounds like separate ops until a combined contract for the pilots. A combined contract never occured.

As Scott Kirby has said publicly, it never happened (the complete merger).

 

[FL430]

Either 4 or 10 depending on what they're serving for dinner in Essington.

Didn't know the answer, huh?

 

[snapthis]

Go to sleep Mark, you're delusional.

He's as delusional as the dream the man in this North Korean propaganda video.

Niether one will come true.

Keep dreaming. Both of you.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=203_1360053143

 

[CaptChill]

And our majority has put them in their place with DoH. We sure showed them, didn't we Chief?

Well are you DOH or not, Westie?

 

[prechilill]

No doubt. Much like you've done for the past six years.

You have your own union and you do not have a DOH SLI... think about that for a moment.

 

[prechilill]

A few facts before I sleep:

The "merger" of our pilot groups never actually really happened. But if pressed, I might suppose I could cave and say it happened in early 2008, after ALL the East furloughs were back on the property. The government says we merged THEN, when they granted us single carrier status. Surprise! Parker and his henchmen neglected to attend to that matter for almost 3 years. Too bad for the West Class. NO furlouged East pilots at the time of the merger. None. Book mark it.

But no worries, the POR (or later) will be the new snapshot. Hopefully the West Class will able to argue all the wide bodies, crew bases, and attrition they bring to the table. "None. One. Very little."

Funny thing is, one of their furloughed pilots recalled to the East can now hold Captain. Yet they still have pilots on the street. Tough sell in M/B. Yikes.

The West Class will never, ever be permitted to place a pilot from the East with seventeen years unbroken service below a new hire. Book mark it again. Not going to happen. Ever

Greeter

You have no choice, Mark. You voted for the MOU and this is far out of your hands my friend. DOH No Go

 

[end_of_alpa]

OK Maroon, I said there would be NO DOH. That said, STARTING with the Nicolau with APA is no skin off the APA nose. Here's the APA quote from the update (2/27/2013):

"Many of you are concerned that, considering history, the outcome will be a “date-of-hire” seniority list that harms your career expectations. You can be sure that your leadership will determine the position that will best reflect the American Airlines pilots’ interests, and in that regard, a three-person arbitration panel should help to ensure a fair and balanced outcome. The APA Board of Directors has appointed a Seniority Integration Committee, supported by experienced counsel, and it is ready to carefully analyze the impact of the possible seniority integration methods in the specific circumstances of this case, including date-of-hire, length of service and ratio or other methods. Your APA Board of Directors will direct the Seniority Integration Committee to develop positions that best reflect our interests and career expectations."​

Fat, drunk & stupid is no way to go through life (apologies Dean Wormer). Pull your head out of your tailpipe and post with some sort of intelect (Please). You sir are the one of the biggest spinners here.

CB

OK, Maroon. The leadership will determine is what he said and secondly, they didn't say anything about the NIC. Your really are a maroon, Dave.

 

[nycbusdriver]

Learn your history.

Do a little research.

NYC he was referring to all the flying they were doing mostly in Australia. Maybe CLAX could be so kind as to post that scab list again with all the AWE pilot names on it. He has a link to a good video as well.

Please enlighten me as to the destinations "around the world" that AWA served with their 747s?
Aside from Nagoya and Mexico, where did those AWA 747s land outside of the United States? What European cities were served from PHX? Which Middle Eastern cities? Which South American cities? Which African cities? Which Asian cities in addition to Nagoya, Japan?

Even though AWA was 21% owned by Ansett, it couldn't muster the clout to get the US to approve service from PHX to Australia! It was awarded to another carrier. You assholes couldn't even fly your own airline to get to your scabbing efforts.

 

[nycbusdriver]

As long as the changes lock the west pilots into PHX, they will be happy to make changes to the DOH proposal.

For years we've been hearing from the west idiots that the Nicolau abomination is fair to the east pilots because they are not the least bit interested in bidding east bases and commuting out of their heavenly sandbox.

So then, locking the west idiots into their dry-heat nirvana should not be a problem for them.