The funniest is the USAPA company collusion argument, funny! LMFAO!
April/May 2013 Pilot Discussion
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prechilill
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Liar. I checked the filings and "hope" is never used, not once.
Oh, you are reading the USAP versions of the filings. Sanitized and ready for sheep consumption.
Hope. Not.
The next big video by by AOL, " OUR INABILITY TO SURVIVE AFTER LEAVING ENABLING ISLAND IN THE SAND"
Their SPHERE of influence about to be exposed by the lack of economic performance of the "HUB of a FLUB" called PHX!
Walmartgreeter
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I don't know how he could check out any sooner. Dave can already hold Capt on the 190 on the AUG 13 Bid, with pilots below him.
Greeter
Dave is in a very precarious situation, his success would point to west failures, that is why he turned a captain upgrade down. Dave is just trying to remain employed to feed his family, not allowed by his fellow west pilots. Dave upgrading would interfere with the west pilot facts and would be admissible in a court of law. Remember the legal brief, the west legal staff wants their perceived facts, not law now.
http://leonidas.cact...l Complaint.pdf
The following is a threat to a west pilot, by his own west pilot group. The west pilot was trying to abide by his legal obligation and work with USAPA, his new union.
"One such electronic communication sent on or about May 12, 2008, inquired as to when a “blanket party” would be held for this pilot. Upon information and belief, a “blanket party” refers to a method of assault in which attackers restrain and blind their victim by throwing a blanket over the victim’s head, and then strike the victim repeatedly. The same pilot has been subjected to the threat of a concerted effort by multiple pilots to put him on a “no fly” list in order to severely limit or eliminate his work opportunities."
http://leonidas.cact...l Complaint.pdf
The following is a threat to a west pilot, by his own west pilot group. The west pilot was trying to abide by his legal obligation and work with USAPA, his new union.
"One such electronic communication sent on or about May 12, 2008, inquired as to when a “blanket party” would be held for this pilot. Upon information and belief, a “blanket party” refers to a method of assault in which attackers restrain and blind their victim by throwing a blanket over the victim’s head, and then strike the victim repeatedly. The same pilot has been subjected to the threat of a concerted effort by multiple pilots to put him on a “no fly” list in order to severely limit or eliminate his work opportunities."
What is hilarious is if you apply "ALPA AT THE TIME" merger policy to our 3 way the bottom pilots at AWA(not furloughed) can end up junior by about 4 to 5 years to ODELL, how appropriate!
Walmartgreeter
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The West Class threatened physical violence on pilots that stepped up to be reps early on. If this ever goes to a DFR trial, all this will finally come out via sworn written statements. The next one won't be a Wake circus. It will all come out, even the most recent smash down of non-Leo Merger committee members. They turned down two postions on the Committee because they were not "Leo."
But no worries, the world will never see those transgressions. There will be no need.
Greeter
49. From April 18, 2008 to May 20, 2008, 13,986 calls have been placed to USAPA’s toll-free telephone information line for a combined total of 46,047 minutes. The USAPA telephone records show that many of these calls were placed in succession from the same incoming number. For example, 132 calls were placed between May 18 and May 20, 2008, from (202) 580-8200. The large volume of frivolous calls clogs the system and degrades the ability to check voicemail because legitimate voicemail messages from pilots are surrounded by hang-ups.
50. Upon information and belief, the defendants and their co-conspirators are responsible for the deluge of frivolous telephone calls to USAPA’s toll-free telephone line. These mass frivolous calls have been made with the malicious intent to incapacitate USAPA and waste its assets.
51. Upon information and belief, on or about April 30, 2008, the following message was posted on the AWAPPA Web Board:
Want To Screw USAPA?
I took some advice from another thread and called their hotline 1-877-678-7272 option 1 and let it run it’s [sic] course, about 15 minutes. I did some research and it cost them 7 cents a minute. After 9 pm cell phone usage is free and I can run two lines at once, plus my home phone….Oh yeah and Iprobably cost them an easy $30-$40. If we all did this…holy crap!
52. Between April 24 and April 27, 2008, defendant Tooke made 152 telephone calls to the USAPA toll-free number from his cellular telephone. Upon information and belief, Tooke’s cellular telephone carrier is Intermedia Communications, Inc., and his cell phone number is (623) 399-9434.
53. In addition to the above calls made by defendant Tooke, he also made 241 calls between April 26 and April 30, 2008 for a total of approximately 1,810 minutes to the USAPA toll-free number from a cellular telephone with the number (937) 361-8024. Upon information and belief, this cellular telephone is registered to defendant Tooke in Dayton, Ohio and the cellular telephone carrier is Sprint Spectrum, L.P., OH.
54. Between April 24, 2008, and May 1, 2008, defendant Krueger made 125 telephone calls to the USAPA toll-free number from the telephone number (480) 288-8350, for a total of approximately 794 minutes. Krueger made 110 of the 125 calls between April 25 and April 30, 2008. Upon information and belief, this telephone number is registered to Krueger at 11181 E. Peralta Canyon Dr., Gold Canyon, Arizona 85218.
55. Between April 21, 2008 and May 1, 2008, approximately 1,481 telephone calls to the USAPA toll-free number originated from the telephone number (602) 243-1006 for a total of approximately 9,767 minutes. Upon information and belief, this telephone number is registered to defendant Cundari at 3626 West Glass Lane, Phoenix, Arizona 85041.
56. In addition to the above calls made by defendant Cundari from his residence, he also made 837 calls, for a total of 5,516 minutes, to USAPA’s toll-free
50. Upon information and belief, the defendants and their co-conspirators are responsible for the deluge of frivolous telephone calls to USAPA’s toll-free telephone line. These mass frivolous calls have been made with the malicious intent to incapacitate USAPA and waste its assets.
51. Upon information and belief, on or about April 30, 2008, the following message was posted on the AWAPPA Web Board:
Want To Screw USAPA?
I took some advice from another thread and called their hotline 1-877-678-7272 option 1 and let it run it’s [sic] course, about 15 minutes. I did some research and it cost them 7 cents a minute. After 9 pm cell phone usage is free and I can run two lines at once, plus my home phone….Oh yeah and Iprobably cost them an easy $30-$40. If we all did this…holy crap!
52. Between April 24 and April 27, 2008, defendant Tooke made 152 telephone calls to the USAPA toll-free number from his cellular telephone. Upon information and belief, Tooke’s cellular telephone carrier is Intermedia Communications, Inc., and his cell phone number is (623) 399-9434.
53. In addition to the above calls made by defendant Tooke, he also made 241 calls between April 26 and April 30, 2008 for a total of approximately 1,810 minutes to the USAPA toll-free number from a cellular telephone with the number (937) 361-8024. Upon information and belief, this cellular telephone is registered to defendant Tooke in Dayton, Ohio and the cellular telephone carrier is Sprint Spectrum, L.P., OH.
54. Between April 24, 2008, and May 1, 2008, defendant Krueger made 125 telephone calls to the USAPA toll-free number from the telephone number (480) 288-8350, for a total of approximately 794 minutes. Krueger made 110 of the 125 calls between April 25 and April 30, 2008. Upon information and belief, this telephone number is registered to Krueger at 11181 E. Peralta Canyon Dr., Gold Canyon, Arizona 85218.
55. Between April 21, 2008 and May 1, 2008, approximately 1,481 telephone calls to the USAPA toll-free number originated from the telephone number (602) 243-1006 for a total of approximately 9,767 minutes. Upon information and belief, this telephone number is registered to defendant Cundari at 3626 West Glass Lane, Phoenix, Arizona 85041.
56. In addition to the above calls made by defendant Cundari from his residence, he also made 837 calls, for a total of 5,516 minutes, to USAPA’s toll-free
It is a shame what Mr Odell had to go through. Dave was just like all of us, a young man who wanted to fly an airplane as a career. Now he is just trying to feed his family. Dave is being used as a political football by the west, his failure would be a west success in their mind. The west will fail on this one, both legally and morally.
Waiting in line and fences are part of a civilized society. "You can not fool mother nature."
BEST GUESS, look to the MOU experation, that is when it will all be sorted, ( JAN 2019)! Till the seperate ops! MM!
traderjake
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Your Mom says get back in the basement, the band's coming over to practice.
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