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czerny-
Let me get this straight. You would rather that APFA did nothing to help you and all that were in your position?
I have a problem when a union president tells me to my face on my flight that I will not be furloughed, only for me to get a warn letter days later.
Now, you are also the great jimdini and are prognosticating more, even greater furloughs to come. How come you know that information, yet didn't know that you would be furloughed for 2 months?
Because LG told me on my flight (see point above) that my buddy bidder and I would not be furloughed. So, we were both very dissapointed and surprised to get a letter days later.
I am not trying to stir the pot, just that people need to tone down the emotions and try to think a little more clearly. People need to stop feeling sorry for themselves and work to make it better. Manipulating information and spreading rumors as fact certainly don't help.
Not me I voted YES on all four issues and most of the senior F/As are voting yes.My ballot went in the mail this morning. NO on all proposed changes.
Not me I voted YES on all four issues and most of the senior F/As are voting yes.
Good to hear you atleast voted... most junior F/As dont even know there is a ballot out. So sad...Not me I voted NO on ALL FIVE ISSUES and MOST JUNIOR F/As are voting NO.
Good to hear you atleast voted... most junior F/As dont even know there is a ballot out. So sad...
Well senior is senior....Same with the senior..not a big group to vote. And the senior will keep getting more junior thanks to the revolving door, seasonal work at AA.
The important thing for me now is to protect myself against those on furlough who have the power to affect any vote.
Voting for a strike and actually striking are two different things. The vast majority will always for to strike. Like so many other things it is a barging tool.The reality is that the only reason the former TW f/as could affect a strike vote is because a lot of the super senior f/as have no intention of voting for a strike and risking their cushy situation in negotiations to end the strike.
There are physical tests, we always have routinely had to open a 767 door wit out the power. They do have to open a 737 and S08 door.They don't even care (according to the ones I've talked with) if we even get a new contract any time soon. A new contract or a strike risks the possibility that the company will get minimum threshold flying out of the talks. Or, physical tests at EPTs to prove fitness for the job. (If it's shown that you can no longer open a widebody door in the event of power loss, there are those who might think it wouldn't be safe for you to be responsible for that door.)
Yet most of the people who run for office are those senior people. Where are the JR ones who should be involved and learning? where are the JR ones who claim they want to make a difference? Answer, they are whining about it on the plane on web boards and yahoo groups wondering why somebody else hasn't stepped up and done something.They know that a new contract is not going to substantially improve anyone's income status--especially the top of scale people; so, why bother?