Another School Massacre

[muff daddy]

I must have missed how this plays a role in a school shooting. Are you saying that the shootings aren't all that bad because we abort babies?

Is murder murder?
Where is the line drawn?

 

[SparrowHawk]

Funny how the party that claims to want to protect human life does nothing to protect it other than come up with the idea of "just say no to sex" yet the party they accuse of wanting kill babies is the party that wants sex ed in schools, family planning, prenatasl care, OTC birth control. SO who really wants to protect the babies and who is trying to contol womens lives?

So your solution to the gun violence is ??????? Guess I cannot expect more from the "just say no to .. " party.

It's also the Party whose President orders hundreds of drone strikes in Pakistan that kill hundreds of innocent each time they strike. Thank God he won the Peace Prize.

 

[southwind]

I suppose this California guy just wanted to remind the world that he is just exercising his constitutional right to own a gun....
He really wasn't shooting at anyone....

https://www.youtube....h?v=NeoefKm8evw

I'm sure ya gun-lovers would have felt comfortable in this situation and just went on with your normal business at the mall. Nothing really to freak out about. Just someone owning a gun, and letting you know...

Uh.............he didn't own the guns , last time I checked !

Agree with the media statement but it is ugly and it is a result of the cumulation of our socities decisions. We should have it in our faces.

Even though other murderous devices could have been built, we alow it to be done efficiently. One weapon was used. Each victim shot multiple times. 26 victims. Took minutes.

So, your saying you can't stab 26 people multiple times then, right ?

Responsible gun owners can and do prevent mass shootings from occurring and escalating.

A 1997 high school shooting in Pearl, Miss., was halted by the school's vice principal after he retrieved the Colt .45 he kept in his truck.
A 1998 middle school shooting ended when a man living next door heard gunfire and apprehended the shooter with his shotgun.
A 2002 terrorist attack at an Israeli school was quickly stopped by an armed teacher and a school guard.
A 2002 law school shooting in Grundy, Va., came to an abrupt conclusion when students carrying firearms confronted the shooter.
A 2007 mall shooting in Ogden, Utah, ended when an armed off-duty police officer intervened.
A 2009 workplace shooting in Houston, Texas, was halted by two coworkers who carried concealed handguns.
A 2012 church shooting in Aurora, Colo., was stopped by a member of the congregation carrying a gun.
At the recent mall shooting in Portland, Ore., the gunman took his own life minutes after being confronted by a shopper carrying a concealed weapon.

Don't involve known facts, on the benfits of conceal-carry, in this conversation please !

 

[Bob Owens]

Amen dog. I can't imagine what the parents or families of these vicitms are going thru right now. Can we drop the politics for at least a day? I'm gonna hug my kid.

I would imagine they are thinking that kid should not have had access to such killing power.


The problem with the pro gun side is they are against any control or limitations and come across as nuts. Guns are dangerous. they are designed to be dangerous, and there should be controls on who gets to carry these things among us. We do it for Automobiles. We have to register them and get a license to operate them, cars can be dangerous as well, but they are designed to provide transportation. Some claim that registration is the first step towards confiscation, well we've been registering our cars for years and they haven't taken them away from everyone, they have taken them from Drunk drivers and people who use them to go and buy drugs though.

 

[Dog Wonder]

9/11 was committed with items you could by at Home Depot.

They sell flying lessons?

 

[Bob Owens]

So, your saying you can't stab 26 people multiple times then, right ?

Sure, but I doubt if he had walked in there with a knife that 27 people would have died that day.

 

[muff daddy]

I would imagine they are thinking that kid should not have had access to such killing power.


The problem with the pro gun side is they are against any control or limitations and come across as nuts. Guns are dangerous. they are designed to be dangerous, and there should be controls on who gets to carry these things among us. We do it for Automobiles. We have to register them and get a license to operate them, cars can be dangerous as well, but they are designed to provide transportation. Some claim that registration is the first step towards confiscation, well we've been registering our cars for years and they haven't taken them away from everyone, they have taken them from Drunk drivers and people who use them to go and buy drugs though.

Driving isn't a Constitutional right.

 

[Ms Tree]

Some dude in China I think knifed about 20 people in a school a few days ago. I believe all survived.

 

[muff daddy]

Some dude in China I think knifed about 20 people in a school a few days ago. I believe all survived.

That's because gun ownership isn't permitted in China.
Also how martial arts were developed.

 

[muff daddy]

Looks like this incident has some commonality with Sandy Hook:

Police told the Chinese government's Xinhua News Agency that Min was possibly 'mentally ill' and is now in custody.

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[muff daddy]

The Gun Control in ObamaCare

This would make it impossible for Americans to keep private, medical information out of the government-controlled medical database that was created under Sec. 13001 of the stimulus bill. Once a person’s medical information has been put into the database, then the ATF and the FBI will be able to use it to deny law-abiding Americans their right to purchase firearms -- just like the thousands of military veterans who have been denied their right to purchase firearms.
The problem with the veterans began in 1999, when under the direction of the Clinton administration, the Department of Veteran Affairs was obliged to share certain mental health records with the FBI for the purpose of adding names to the national instant check system (NICS). People whose names are added to NICS, of course, are not allowed to purchase or possess firearms.

http://gunowners.org/fs2011a.htm

 

[KCFlyer]

Take the guns away, there will be other ways to achieve their statements. Its not the guns..its irrational unstable people.

With the left supporting a platform of it feels good do it without any moral or social repercussions somebody has to hold them accountable for their utter indiscretions. If I remember correctly it took three voice no votes and an override by the convention chair to include God in the DNC platform. So go figure.....
Piece of ass, pregnant, toss it away, its only life.

Yep...it wasn't the gun that killed people..it was the gun owners mentally deranged son. But....if we left every gun law as it was and instead, when a kid goes to a psychotherapits office we make the first question be "are there guns in the house?" If so, we take them away in order to prevent a person with mental issues from getting a hold of the guns. Of course, that's an infringment of the second amendment rights, and we CERTAINLY don't want to tell the mom to LOCK THE DAMN GUN CASE. Why....there's nothing in there but some innocent not killing guns. IF the people fight so damn hard for the right to own a gun won't exercise responsiblity, should they even OWN a gun??

I have a right to own a gun even if I don't know how to use one and even if I might decide to use one irresponsilby. But I don't have a right to drive a car....it's a privlege that I have to demonstrate some capability of understanding before getting behind the wheel.

 

[Bob Owens]

OKC bombing comes to mind off the top of my head, but there it was what? 166 dead.

As I ponder and process this whole disaster it has occurred to me that if the government went so far as to confiscate every gun in the United States those in CT would be no less dead. However, 280 MILLION would be less safe and less free.

While 10,000 gun deaths is 10,000 to many when compared to the alternative of a totalitarian regime of tyrants controlling our evey move ala the Soviet Union then I think the mayhem caused by gun violence is perhaps a cot of freedom. Especially since we know historically that when Prohibition ended violent crime went down 40% almost overnight. That same decrease would occur if we ended the war on drugs.

As we all mourn and react to the events of Friday we need to remind ourselves that the person whose hand is on the trigger is responsible, NOT society. A society with maximum liberty inherently carries maximum risk.

Are you claiming that we have more Liberty than people in , let say Ireland, where they have gun control regulations?

I do not own a gun and don't feel that I am less free because I don't. If I did decide to get one I have no problem registering and even taking classes on handling one. I don't mind that some people have guns but I see nothing wrong with setting standards that would enhance the safety of those of us who choose not to own a gun, which is the majority of the 280 million you mention, from those who shouldn't have a gun.

 

[muff daddy]

Yep...it wasn't the gun that killed people..it was the gun owners mentally deranged son. But....if we left every gun law as it was and instead, when a kid goes to a psychotherapits office we make the first question be "are there guns in the house?" If so, we take them away in order to prevent a person with mental issues from getting a hold of the guns. Of course, that's an infringment of the second amendment rights, and we CERTAINLY don't want to tell the mom to LOCK THE DAMN GUN CASE. Why....there's nothing in there but some innocent not killing guns. IF the people fight so damn hard for the right to own a gun won't exercise responsiblity, should they even OWN a gun??

I have a right to own a gun even if I don't know how to use one and even if I might decide to use one irresponsilby. But I don't have a right to drive a car....it's a privlege that I have to demonstrate some capability of understanding before getting behind the wheel.

Check your new affordable healthcare act, doctors aren't permitted to ask questions about firearms.

 

[KCFlyer]

Check your new affordable healthcare act, doctors aren't permitted to ask questions about firearms.

I wonder if that was put in there by a right leaning congressman. Let's take it out of there...should be easy, after all, it's a part of Obamacare and anything we can take out of Obamacare is a good thing right?