Another School Massacre

[southwind]

Got Government Tyranny ?

 

[delldude]

I don't think that Obama, or any politician has the guts to pull something drastic. If they do, they're looking for a possible assassination attempt on them by one of our gun-loving/defending/2nd amendment nutjobs.

An impeachment would serve society a whole lot better.

Funny thing,.....Biden.

Well kiss my butt........

 

[delldude]

davarino says:
January 8, 2013 at 8:35 am

You lefties think it would be great to take away conservative first amendment rights just because you dont like Rush, or Savage. You lefties want to take away the second amendment because you think with emotion rather than your brain. But what happens when your guy goes off the rails and starts doing things you dont approve? Now you have no recourse because you just let them decide who has the right to speak and you cant fight back because you have to guns.
The second amendment was not meant for hunting or mearly protection from a burgler. It was meant to give the people the ability to fight back against a tyrannical government

 

[Dog Wonder]

Who wants to deport Piers Morgan?

 

[KCFlyer]

Who wants to deport Piers Morgan?

Touche'

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

davarino says:
January 8, 2013 at 8:35 am

You lefties think it would be great to take away conservative first amendment rights just because you dont like Rush, or Savage. You lefties want to take away the second amendment because you think with emotion rather than your brain. But what happens when your guy goes off the rails and starts doing things you dont approve? Now you have no recourse because you just let them decide who has the right to speak and you cant fight back because you have to guns.
The second amendment was not meant for hunting or mearly protection from a burgler. It was meant to give the people the ability to fight back against a tyrannical government

A tyrannical government would have silenced Alex Jones, Rush, Hannity, Boortz, and Piers Morgan long ago. We also would not be on a forum discussing this issue. There also would be no two or three party elections. If there were elections, they would be shams.

You think Ron Paul would be allowed to run around and spew his dissidence values along the likes of Rothbard? Would have a congressman be able to stand up in front of the elected President during a speech and yell "you lie" in a Tyranny.

The answer is no. We are very from that.


Definition of tyranny
noun (plural tyrannies)
[mass noun]
cruel and oppressive government or rule:
refugees fleeing tyranny and oppression

a : a government in which absolute power is vested in a single ruler; especially : one characteristic of an ancient Greek city-state

And don't throw in the Executive Order crap again. That was given to the President by the congress.

"Most executive orders are issued under specific statutory authority from Congress and have the force and effect of law. Such executive orders usually impose sanctions, determine legal rights, limit agency discretion, and require immediate compliance. Federal courts consider such orders to be the equivalent of federal statutes. In addition, regulations that are enacted to carry out these executive orders have the status of law as long as they reasonably relate to the statutory authority. An administrative action that is carried out under a valid executive order is similar to an agency action that is carried out under a federal statute. In each case, the agency's authority to enact rules and to issue orders comes from Congress.

Absent specific statutory authority, an executive order may have the force and effect of law if Congress has acquiesced in a long-standing executive practice that is well-known to it. For example, in Dames v. Regan, 453 U.S. 654, 101 S. Ct. 2972, 69 L. Ed. 2d 918 (1981), the U.S. Supreme Court upheld various executive orders that suspended claims of U.S. nationals arising out of the Iranian hostage crisis, citing Congress's Acquiescence in a 180-year-old practice of settling U.S. citizens' claims against foreign governments by executive agreement. In describing the situation before it, the Court stated,

We freely confess that we are obviously deciding only one more episode in the never-ending tension between the President exercising the executive authority in a world that presents each day some new challenge with which he must deal and the Constitution under which we all live and which no one disputes embodies some sort of system of checks and balances.

Executive orders also may be authorized by the president's independent constitutional authority (Cunningham v. Neagle, 135 U.S. 1, 10S. Ct. 658, 34 L. Ed. 55 [1890]). Various clauses of the U.S. Constitution have been cited to support the issuance of executive orders. Among them are the Vestiture Clause, which states, "The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America" (art. II, § 1, cl. 1); the Take Care Clause, which states that the president "shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed" (art. II, § 3); and the Commander in Chief Clause, which states that the president "shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States" (art. II, § 2, cl. 1)."

"Following the september 11th terrorist attacks on the United States, President georgew. bush used his authority to issue a number of executive orders. Following his declaration of a national emergency on September 14, 2001, he called members of the armed forces' Ready Reserve to active duty (Exec. Order No. 13,223, 66 Fed. Reg. 48201). Ten days later, he issued an executive order that blocked the financing of terrorist organizations (Exec. Order No 13,224, 66 Fed Reg. 49079). President Bush also created the Homeland Security Department by executive order, before Congress authorized this cabinet-level department (Exec. Order No. 12,228, 66 Fed.Reg. 51812)."

 

[ContUNITEus]

An impeachment would serve society a whole lot better.

Funny thing,.....Biden.

Well kiss my butt........

No, not kiss your butt. For there to be an impeachment case, you'd have to give him a BJ first, ohhhh, and you have to wear a blue dress. That'll get the republicans going again.

 

[ContUNITEus]

This Alex guy is the perfect example of the insane gun advocates running around the USA. Is there a way to create a White House petition to have Alex Jones institutionalized?

 

[delldude]

A tyrannical government would have silenced Alex Jones, Rush, Hannity, Boortz, and Piers Morgan long ago. We also would not be on a forum discussing this issue. There also would be no two or three party elections. If there were elections, they would be shams.

You think Ron Paul would be allowed to run around and spew his dissidence values along the likes of Rothbard? Would have a congressman be able to stand up in front of the elected President during a speech and yell "you lie" in a Tyranny.

The answer is no. We are very from that.


Definition of tyranny
noun (plural tyrannies)
[mass noun]
cruel and oppressive government or rule:
refugees fleeing tyranny and oppression

a : a government in which absolute power is vested in a single ruler; especially : one characteristic of an ancient Greek city-state

And don't throw in the Executive Order crap again. That was given to the President by the congress.

"Most executive orders are issued under specific statutory authority from Congress and have the force and effect of law. Such executive orders usually impose sanctions, determine legal rights, limit agency discretion, and require immediate compliance. Federal courts consider such orders to be the equivalent of federal statutes. In addition, regulations that are enacted to carry out these executive orders have the status of law as long as they reasonably relate to the statutory authority. An administrative action that is carried out under a valid executive order is similar to an agency action that is carried out under a federal statute. In each case, the agency's authority to enact rules and to issue orders comes from Congress.

Absent specific statutory authority, an executive order may have the force and effect of law if Congress has acquiesced in a long-standing executive practice that is well-known to it. For example, in Dames v. Regan, 453 U.S. 654, 101 S. Ct. 2972, 69 L. Ed. 2d 918 (1981), the U.S. Supreme Court upheld various executive orders that suspended claims of U.S. nationals arising out of the Iranian hostage crisis, citing Congress's Acquiescence in a 180-year-old practice of settling U.S. citizens' claims against foreign governments by executive agreement. In describing the situation before it, the Court stated,

We freely confess that we are obviously deciding only one more episode in the never-ending tension between the President exercising the executive authority in a world that presents each day some new challenge with which he must deal and the Constitution under which we all live and which no one disputes embodies some sort of system of checks and balances.

Executive orders also may be authorized by the president's independent constitutional authority (Cunningham v. Neagle, 135 U.S. 1, 10S. Ct. 658, 34 L. Ed. 55 [1890]). Various clauses of the U.S. Constitution have been cited to support the issuance of executive orders. Among them are the Vestiture Clause, which states, "The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America" (art. II, § 1, cl. 1); the Take Care Clause, which states that the president "shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed" (art. II, § 3); and the Commander in Chief Clause, which states that the president "shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States" (art. II, § 2, cl. 1)."

"Following the september 11th terrorist attacks on the United States, President georgew. bush used his authority to issue a number of executive orders. Following his declaration of a national emergency on September 14, 2001, he called members of the armed forces' Ready Reserve to active duty (Exec. Order No. 13,223, 66 Fed. Reg. 48201). Ten days later, he issued an executive order that blocked the financing of terrorist organizations (Exec. Order No 13,224, 66 Fed Reg. 49079). President Bush also created the Homeland Security Department by executive order, before Congress authorized this cabinet-level department (Exec. Order No. 12,228, 66 Fed.Reg. 51812)."

Who said anything about a tyrannical government............yet.
He hasn't even started his second term....we have lots of time for tyranny.
I think you're going to see the dark side of your hero here soon. Remember Val's letter? They got something in the works to roll over Congress...that is going to be interesting.

We could be in the midst of tyranny and your blind faith wouldn't let you see it.

 

[delldude]

This Alex guy is the perfect example of the insane gun advocates running around the USA. Is there a way to create a White House petition to have Alex Jones institutionalized?

 

[delldude]

No, not kiss your butt. For there to be an impeachment case, you'd have to give him a BJ first, ohhhh, and you have to wear a blue dress. That'll get the republicans going again.

Dude, it wasn't the blowjob, it was lying to Congress under oath that caused all the fun.

 

[KCFlyer]

Dude, it wasn't the blowjob, it was lying to Congress under oath that caused all the fun.

It was lying to Congress about a blowjob. Without a stained blue dress, would the questions about having sex with Monica Lewinsky ever had been asked?

 

[delldude]

It was lying to Congress about a blowjob. Without a stained blue dress, would the questions about having sex with Monica Lewinsky ever had been asked?

So the guy let his little head do all his thinking for him....who then is at fault?

 

[delldude]

It was lying to Congress about a blowjob. Without a stained blue dress, would the questions about having sex with Monica Lewinsky ever had been asked?

Bill Clinton named 'Father of the Year'

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[KCFlyer]

So the guy let his little head do all his thinking for him....who then is at fault?

Yep..and for 8 years....from the moment Clinton said "so help me God" for the first time in 1993, the right has been "investigating" him. Don't forget that the blowjob issue came out of what started as a real estate investment investigation.