Another School Massacre

EastUS1 said:
700UW, on 29 May 2014 - 4:46 PM, said:
Mental Health checks being part of the background check will certainly be a good start.
 
VERY slippery indeed dell. Perhaps the VERY last thing any actually sane person should EVER want to see is government "standards" for supposed sanity....You know, kinda' like those easily adjustable "standards" used by Lois Lerner and her disgusting sorts within the Infernal Revenue...?
 
 
The Sterling Family Trust owns the team, with Donald and his wife Shelly each owning a 50% share. The trust spells out provisions and procedures related to the mental capacity of the trustees, and Donald Sterling did not meet the standard in a determination by experts, giving his wife sole decision-making power for the trust, the person said.
 
Convenient, eh?
 
700UW said:
Mental Health checks being part of the background check will certainly be a good start.
 
The VA Tech shooter was found mentally ill by the courts, yet he was allowed to purchase what he did, because mental health checks are not legal.
 
And no where did I state that I was in favor of banning guns, I own several myself.
 
Guess what?
 
 

If someone calls the police, concerned about a son’s mental state and afraid he may be a danger to society, is it the job of the police to respond? Did the mental health system in California allow this boy to slip through the cracks? This is an important question, because in California, mental health records are examined when someone tries to buy a firearm. If a therapist believes the person is a danger, he may be barred from purchasing a firearm. In addition, multiple firearm purchases in California are automatically reported to the ATF.
How is it possible that authorities in a state that ties mental health to gun ownership allowed this boy to own a firearm? The police in his hometown seem to have failed in their job to investigate his parents’ concerns about his mental health.
 
The target of Feinstein’s hatred and of her strongest efforts in the Senate is the gun lobby. A background check, linked to mental health records, did not stop this boy from buying one firearm, let alone three. Background checks are already the rule of law. You cannot go into any gun store in this country and legally purchase a firearm without a background check. Only sales between private individuals are uncovered in most states. The overwhelming majority of gun sales and transfers involve background checks, and Feinstein knows it.
 
Read more at http://www.commdiginews.com/politics-2/feinsteins-comments-on-ucsb-shooting-18462/#7s2zcoSShOEtuHZc.99
 
Ms Tree said:
There are roughly 30k gun deaths a year.  I don't think that is going to do jack to stem that tied.
 
30K in gun deaths? time to outlaw Alcohol AND Cars as they are responsible of many thousands of deaths. OH, WAIT we tried outlawing alcohol once. How did that work out? Not so well if I recall. Also how many of those gun deaths are related to the insane war on drugs some kind of way?
 
Confiscating, regulating, prohibiting or registering firearms is only punishing those who OBEY existing gun laws. Criminals already have demonstrated in Chicago just how well prohibition of fire arms is working out.
 
Take a breath Sparrow. Did I mention outlawing anything? Nope. I said the ship has sailed and that this is the society we live in. Thirty thousand death are acceptable in our society.

Cars and alcohol are just a tad different than guns. One of the three items are designed to kill. The other two are not. I'll let you figure out which is which.

There are ways to regulate weapons which would be very effective. It would take a long time to implement (severe generations) but I believe it could be done with out infringing upon anyone's right to own weapons.
 
He killed the first three people with a knife, what do we do about that?
He is nuts and nothing anyone can do about crazy people who kill people and have no regard for life.
...and only in California can one be knowingly "nuts" and be able to obtain guns LEGALLY! Everywhere else they get them from someone else.
 
According to the FBI the ratio is 70% with guns and 14% with a cutting instrument. I wonder why that is?
I would check on which statistics are gaining ground. The stabbings outweigh the shootings in a 100 mile radius around me. Even in the most violent sections, stabbings are on the increase.

But continue the fantastic twist!
 
Ms Tree said:
Take a breath Sparrow. Did I mention outlawing anything? Nope. I said the ship has sailed and that this is the society we live in. Thirty thousand death are acceptable in our society.

Cars and alcohol are just a tad different than guns. One of the three items are designed to kill. The other two are not. I'll let you figure out which is which.

There are ways to regulate weapons which would be very effective. It would take a long time to implement (severe generations) but I believe it could be done with out infringing upon anyone's right to own weapons.
 
You mean like all those cars built by government Motors. You know that great company that left we the people holding the bill for theor failed business? What purpose were the 13 killed so far by the faulty product?
 
13 deaths are miniscule to financial actuaries in the amount of safe trips completed. Not much solace if one of those is your friend or family.

Maybe we should hand over the auto industry to the (fill in the blank).
 
SparrowHawk said:
You mean like all those cars built by government Motors. You know that great company that left we the people holding the bill for theor failed business? What purpose were the 13 killed so far by the faulty product?
What are you talking about? How is this in anyway to connected to gun violence? Are you insinuating that the cars were Le designed to kill people? Pretty poor design if only 13 were killed.
 
Designed for death? YOU said that. GM seems to design and build car with your money that kill and then they may hide behind the BK laws.
 
GM needs to go away. Gun Control morons need to purchase and ride in their GM death traps.
 
SparrowHawk said:
Designed for death? YOU said that. GM seems to design and build car with your money that kill and then they may hide behind the BK laws.
 
GM needs to go away. Gun Control morons need to purchase and ride in their GM death traps.
Yea yea.  You hate Obama and you hate everything government.  We get it. 
 
GM screwed up.  They knew about a defect and did not fix it.  Nothing to do with the issue being discussed. 
 
We are talking about guns.  Not a specific gun just guns.  We are talking about cars.  Not a specific car, just cars.  We are talking about alcohol, not a specific drink, just alcohol.  Guns are designed for one purpose and one purpose only.   Too kill.  Cars and alcohol are not designed for that purpose.  Not a difficult concept.  
 
So the fact remains that 30,000 people a year die in gun related deaths and that is that.  Nothing will be done about it.  Lime many issues, not many people care about it till it's personal.  Nancy Reagan did not have much interest in stem cell research till she found out it could have helped her husband.  Cong Porter did not care about equality for gays till one of he found out he had a gay child.  People do not care about  the vets till they have a vet who was screwed over.  So 30,000 people a year will die because no one can have a rational discussion about guns.  Mean while everyone hope that they are not one of the 30,000.  Odds are pretty good of it not happening so it's alright.  
 

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