So you will admit to being no better than the people you sit in high judgment of. So then it is easy to assume in the same situation you would have done exactly the same as the AA FA's. Being petty and bitter before or after the fact is exactly the same. In the future spare us the sanctimonious we would have given you seniority. Your words and your dreams of petty revenge speak volumes over your what we would have done.
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AMR talks about training fill-in flight attendants
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Of course he does. They believe they are justified in crossing a picket line simply for revenge.
they have bragged how the former TWAers were the best and most professional, yet they are willing to cross a picket line to get back at their union.
TWA aquired OZARK....OZARK f/as were treated as equals...
THAT ALONE SPEAKS VOLUMES
Keep on Spinning excuses....there is still time left for APFA to do the right thing!
Statement from a former TWA f/a.
Either you are a union or you're not, and YOU"RE NOT!
The first principle of unionism is to provide fair treatment to all workers, hired and aquired!
goodgirl37
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The point is, treat others as you wish to be treated. American flight attendants could find theirselves in the same position as the t.w.a. flight attendants very soon, and I guarantee you they would ask for d.o.h... now back to topic, if the flight attendants strike they will likely be permanently replaced. This isn't 1993, and you either change with time or it changes you. It is so funny how people are now talking about chaos. When not to long ago, they were condemning it on the as forum.
That was not the first offer. That is how it ended up. Spin how you like.
And all this time we thought is was to protect your dues paying members. Which it actually is.
Really how is it you draw that conclusion? As of right now AA has only talked of training replacements. even if they start they will require far more than the number of people working here now. There are a hundred scenarios pro and con. To say the situation is lost before its even begun is a losers attitude.
The TWA f/as were paying dues to APFA even during the STAPLING process and also throughout their (TWA) STL furlough flush!
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Actually the union is charged with representing all the members of the employee group, not just the dues paying members. I'll say this, the FA integration in the AA/TWA transaction is the only one that led to the passage of a federal law on seniority integrations that I can remember.
Jim
While I agree that it's beneficial if FAs are trained/qualified on multiple airplanes for many efficiency reasons (eg, it makes recovery from IROPS easier), I don't see why single airplane qualification would mean that AA would need many more FAs than the current number to muddle its way thru a strike or lockout.
Multiple qualifications would make it easier to fly 100% of the schedule, but I'll bet that management would declare success if AA could manage to fly 60% of the current schedule, concentrating on the widebody international flights and major trunk routes.
What am I missing?
LOL they declared success last time flying empty planes.
Just that it would be a logistical nightmare. Depending on the scenario either a full on strike and or lock out as you point out. The trips would have to be built as the day progressed and it would require trying to contact people individually.Garfield could likely tell you what a nightmare it was the last time even with the few people they had and trying to get a crew together and they were all qualified on most if not all of our AC.
Even if they managed a build a schedule in anticipation of a work action they than have to implement it and then adjust the pilots flying as well. As it is most lines are built with multiple AC assignments. mixing 737 S80 and 757 and wide body mixing 767 and 777 to be able to fully utilize people up to there max hours per month. With flying with minimum crews as well the work load being more and now with just one person missing the flight is off.
while the TWA people were able to get it through congress on an appropriations bill through the MO senators. It is not the first ever union stapling of seniority. In the future you might see more companies use the SWA model for integration to avoid the new law.
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"And I cant believe all of our brothers and sisters from TWA would cross the picket line."
Here's a message from your family...
Ex-TWA flight attendants threaten to work during American Airlines strike
11:38 AM Thu, Feb 04, 2010 | Permalink
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http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/archive...ants-threa.html
A group of ex-Trans World Airlines flight attendants was warning Thursday its members would gladly work as replacements if American Airlines flight attendants walk off the job.
The St. Louis-based group, Coalition for Union Principles, told APFA president Laura Glading last August that the group's members would be willing to cross a picket line if the APFA walked off the job. That threat was repeated in a Thursday press release.
Here's a message from your family...
Ex-TWA flight attendants threaten to work during American Airlines strike
11:38 AM Thu, Feb 04, 2010 | Permalink
Terry Maxon/Reporter Bio | E-mail | News tips
http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/archive...ants-threa.html
A group of ex-Trans World Airlines flight attendants was warning Thursday its members would gladly work as replacements if American Airlines flight attendants walk off the job.
The St. Louis-based group, Coalition for Union Principles, told APFA president Laura Glading last August that the group's members would be willing to cross a picket line if the APFA walked off the job. That threat was repeated in a Thursday press release.
These the same scabs from the IFFA strike? Maybe the old AA scabs will issue a press release as well. A coalition makes it sound like a huge number of people. Yet they neglect to state how many members of this coalition actually subscribe. It leave me to believe it is a few rather than many.
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