Amfa-twu Debate(the Official One)

Oct 9, 2003
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I was there at the BRADY theater. Anybody who wanted to come into the building for the debate was allowed into the building,no matter what side they were on or what shirt they were wearing. CIO,TWUer,etc. are a bunch of TWU LIARS! The TWU supporters really showed their professionalism today. CIO,tell the guys who dropped their pants to "MOON" us across the street to get some "clearasill" for the pimples on their butts!

The AMFA representatives at the debate showed what professionalism is all about.
AMFA's leaders and lawyers definitely know what they are talking about unlike the losers we have from the TWU international(which failed to show). The end is near for the EVIL TWU. TEAMTwu your antics and tactics used today got a whole bunch of AMFA cards signed. I heard we had an attendance of 718 people. Not bad ,considering the threats and intimidation coming from across the street!
 
I believe that 718 number could only be achieved by using TWU math.

No way, the attendance was not what we hoped for!
 
I don't think we want to inflate our numbers like the TWU does, it never works anyway.
our showing was about the same as the TWUs both had a poor showing, but that just means that most people have allready made up their minds and are ready to vote.
 
I agree, we do not want to inflate our numbers. However this meeting is the most we ever had at the Brady. I still cannot figure out why the TWU TeAAm showed up. AMFA is not a threat remember. Well maybe if you are a member of Flett Service or a Stock Clerk. But it is my opinion that the Fleet Service and Stock Clerks have done well under the TWU. Why would they want to leave. At least that is what they project in TUL at Local 514.
 
Fleet service and Stock Clerks are just splinter groups as delle pointed out. Simply equates under amfa they are sacraficial lambs. So what! we allow the closure of bases. Nothing will happen to them.

The TWU believes everyone is important and no one is a second class as you all continue to point out amfa is!!!!!!
 
718? I guess there could have been. 700 union people and 18 amfa people. Didn't seem to be that many, however I did not see the inside. A reporter I asked estimated inside attendance between 35-50, and that would be a large number for your car salesman to speak to.

It was good to see the many unions involved in an event. It was good to hear Delle would not receive questions from an amfa member, I don't blame him, not with an audience of kool-aid drinkers present.

And did you notice our TWU men had no problem walking into your house and presenting Delle with our debate rules. I didn't see that on Thursday with the amfa reps present. They were there for only themselves and the media, that is to be expected from the organizers.

For those of you with no backbone let me tell you, the amfa men that did speak at the debate did so in a professional manner. They spewed the same old record, even going as far as to mention the NRA.

Enjoyed your town and was impressed with your O/H base. Local 514 is one to be proud of, represents well. I looked for amfa's local but couldn't find where they parked the car.
 
Checking it Out said:
Fleet service and Stock Clerks are just splinter groups as delle pointed out. Simply equates under amfa they are sacraficial lambs. So what! we allow the closure of bases. Nothing will happen to them.

The TWU believes everyone is important and no one is a second class as you all continue to point out amfa is!!!!!!
I have no problem with the Fleet Service Clerks and the Stock Clerks achieving the best representation they can. If that is the TWU fine. But if I am seeking a change in my representitive, why would you be concerned and attempt to thwart democracy?
 
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The 718 number came from the people who worked at the theater. They apparently were keeping count of the number of people in the building. Now how they came up with this figure exactly, that's anybodies guess. I just quoted what I heard in the lobby at the TWU(I mean concession) stand.
 
PRINCESS KIDAGAKASH said:
The 718 number came from the people who worked at the theater. They apparently were keeping count of the number of people in the building. Now how they came up with this figure exactly, that's anybodies guess. I just quoted what I heard in the lobby at the TWU(I mean concession) stand.
I'm willing to bet that the 718 as reported to you by the staff at the Brady, is probably the total numbers of sales at the counter. Not trying to counter your info but it's just a thought.
 
Steve Connell,

It appears you are also over-manned at MCI.

Have you ever experienced the AA/TWU definition of Attrition? You will soon!
 
Hey Dave Stewart, why don't you send all of your calculations along with the names of your brothers you would like to see furloughed to the press. You're a winner man, I cannot believe some of the statements that you have made. You really need to stick to welding and leave the reporting to the press.
 
Dear Steve,

It was the membership of your beloved Local 514 that took a non binding vote to cast all TWA personal to the bottom of the seniority list. You are taking up for those who would have completely taken any seniority you had. There were two people who that I am aware of that took a position opposite of the membership and publicly stated that the former TWA members should be "dovetailed". Those two people are the evil Dave Stewart and myself. We actually made TWU members mad.
Go ahead and support those that would have cut your throat had it not been for the Kasher decision.
 
I have to back Buck on this one Steve! The Kasher agreement is the only thing that saved us.

To bad they didn't come in to our debate and make that one of their points of discussion.
 

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