AMFA at AA- consolidated thread

[swamt]

Thomas Paine wrote:
Guess we will find out in a few weeks. AMFA should take this to court, if the IBT has enough cards, drop the complaint and move on, if the IBT comes up short continue with the suit. If the IBT comes up short I'm sure some of those AA-IBT organizers would be willing to testify that the IBT knew they were short cards and filed to prevent an AMFA vote.

I agree with you 100%. Could someone possibly start a petition or electronic sigs to push for a law suit? This is something all unions should be in support of. If this type of behavior is allowed to continue then there will never be another union removed from a carrier. Think about it guys; Do you guys think congress would stand for this if it were to happen at their level and there was collusion involved to not allow the congress to vote for someone or for something that got blocked just like AMFA just did. As far as cost, I am sure there are other craft unions out there that are willing to help out for the sake of unionism rights being upheld. FILE pls FILE...

 

[FWAAA]

Assuming that the NMB disregards the IBT's forged cards, and the election goes forward, simply write in "AMFA" on your ballot. Simple as that.

If I were voting, I'd add "FU, NMB" as well.

 

[swamt]

Assuming that the NMB disregards the IBT's forged cards, and the election goes forward, simply write in "AMFA" on your ballot. Simple as that.

If I were voting, I'd add "FU, NMB" as well.

What your not thinking about is there more than likely WILL NOT be an election. This was a move to block AMFA from getting on the ballot plain and simple. Yes I am holding out a minute of hope for an election to be called, then yes they will have a write in option, and I would put all my money on AMFA after all this collusion of the 3 some involved. I know what you mean with your "FU" to the NMB, but if they get the write in, they better not do anything to have a ballot refused, but I do agree with you.

 

[AMFAinMIAMI]

Rage for what? AMFA's failure? That rage I would understand

usairways

AMFA did not fail, we the mechanics at AA did. We did not sign the cards to get it done. We were split, TWU/IBT/AMFA, that is the bottom line.

Don't worry you TOO will see what happens when YOU become part of AA.

You think you got screwed by USAir before just wait, AA is a master at the art of taking from its employees and making them think they just got a slice of cake.

Any AMT who was denied the process of choice should be out raged by this.

You will get your choice at USAir to have IBT or the IAM, I along with many others here wanted that choice as well, and won't get that. That is what i talked about.

 

[AANOTOK]

So, was the bottom line that you guys did not get enough AMFA cards signed (in time)?

And yes, AMFAinMIAMI...I expect Bob will be a pretty hardcore TWU guy now, especially with
what has transpired.

To me, this really is unbelievable after what I have read on this site for the last year or so.

Now, how do we clean this board up?

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

This will make about the 11th or 12th thread on this subject. Maybe the moderators will consolidate all of them (like they did the US Air Discussions) so those who are interested can follow along?

 

[Frank Szabo]

What your not thinking about is there more than likely WILL NOT be an election. This was a move to block AMFA from getting on the ballot plain and simple. Yes I am holding out a minute of hope for an election to be called, then yes they will have a write in option, and I would put all my money on AMFA after all this collusion of the 3 some involved. I know what you mean with your "FU" to the NMB, but if they get the write in, they better not do anything to have a ballot refused, but I do agree with you.

I'm really sorry to hear that AMFA won't get a vote. It's rather evident to me who the company prefers on the property, however - same BS as before except all the dead and retired could vote that time. The Reamsters will be shown to not have enough cards for whatever reason and the TWU will continue to "represent" the mech. and related.

Again - my sympathies - that's why I left on the early out. I was afraid there was no way the bus drivers would be displaced and I wasn't about to put up with (and pay for) their crap anymore.

It's rather obvious the Totally Worthless Union, the Reamsters, and the company conspired against the mechanics, as usual, because the company really couldn't function without the TWU getting paid by member dues to do things that should be the company's responsibility.

 

[FWAAA]

What your not thinking about is there more than likely WILL NOT be an election. This was a move to block AMFA from getting on the ballot plain and simple. Yes I am holding out a minute of hope for an election to be called, then yes they will have a write in option, and I would put all my money on AMFA after all this collusion of the 3 some involved. I know what you mean with your "FU" to the NMB, but if they get the write in, they better not do anything to have a ballot refused, but I do agree with you.

Sadly, I think you're correct - what with the forged cards, I doubt that the IBT actually has enough valid cards. I seriously doubt that half of the AA mechanics signed a Teamsters card.

You're completely correct on the middle-finger to the NMB; if there's an election, it would be much wiser to simply indicate "AMFA."

 

[Eagle]

Mod Note:

We have merged multiple threads into this one. Please use this thread for general discussion regarding the AMFA drive at AA.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Flying low]

Now I wonder, for all the amfa supporters that signed a teamsters card " just to get rid of the twu" are regretting that. After all it gave them more cards.

 

[TWU informer]

Now I wonder, for all the amfa supporters that signed a teamsters card " just to get rid of the twu" are regretting that. After all it gave them more cards.

I don't regret. I will never regret giving the membership a ballot choice on any issue. How any Union can believe they will have strength and unity by surviving only by denial of the membership ballot is beyond my comprehension. This profession is now more doomed.

 

[usairways_vote_NO]

I don't regret. I will never regret giving the membership a ballot choice on any issue. How any Union can believe they will have strength and unity by surviving only by denial of the membership ballot is beyond my comprehension. This profession is now more doomed.

Dude get over it and stick to the facts. The facts are the NMB denied AMFA because AMFA didn't read the rule book and got bit

 

[Ed Norton]

The scamsters filed in order to help their TWU buddies. This was the plan from the beginning. The TWU and the scamsters spent a bunch of their members dues monies attacking each other. It was all smoke and mirrors. It was as fake as the fAAke bAAnkruptcy. :angry:

 

[usairways_vote_NO]

The scamsters filed in order to help their TWU buddies. This was the plan from the beginning. The TWU and the scamsters spent a bunch of their members dues monies attacking each other. It was all smoke and mirrors. It was as fake as the fAAke bAAnkruptcy. :angry:

If it was planned from beginning and you and AMFA and everyone else knew it then why didn't you prevent it by being ready?

Answer is you are blowing smoke and can't take it that AMFA blew it.

 

[Vortilon]

If it was planned from beginning and you and AMFA and everyone else knew it then why didn't you prevent it by being ready?

Answer is you are blowing smoke and can't take it that AMFA blew it.

So, what you're saying is, there's nothing unusual about AA tripping over themselves to provide the NMB the signatures of eligible voters within hours? Unlike Teamster and TWU supporters, AMFA supporters tend to be more independent - not the sheeple type! What just happened is, you turds just bought your catch all commie unions a little more time. My hate for the Teamsters and TWU has just doubled.